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  • 02Rodeo
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    Thank's Guz...that was my thought to..I haven't been on here in a couple years so I'm getting back into the swing of things..

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  • The Guz
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    Can't go wrong with either one. The main difference is that M205 has more correcting power where as UP has more polishing oils. For me personally it would be M205.

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  • 02Rodeo
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    As far as polish goes..Mirror glaze or Ultimate polish..I know Mirror glaze is on the professional level...

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  • The Guz
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    It's not about being better. Each line is targeted to a specific market. 365 is another paint protection product. It would be used in place of any wax. It's designed to be a stand alone product. If you put it over a wax it could change the longevity of it since it's not bonding to the paint but rather on top of something else. So you may not see it last the 52+ washes. If you put a wax over it, then you don't see the water beading effects of it. You see the water beading or sheeting of whatever product is applied on top. Think of it this way. 365 is meant to be used by someone who doesn't have the time to wax their vehicle multiple times a year. One would apply this and then maintain with just a normal wash.

    The gloss comes from polishing and not by a wax or sealant (synthetic wax). The wax or sealant is meant to protect the work one has done. Now a wax or sealant can change the appearance of the painted surface. 365 will not alter the appearance.

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  • 02Rodeo
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    Originally posted by The Guz View Post
    That's sad to hear. Brake Dust Barrier is a very good product and very durable. It had it's quirks. Although D156 is easy to use and can be used after every car wash. Based on the MSDS it can survive the high temps generated from that area. It worked well on wheels when I was using it prior to the coating I am now using.



    Ultimate Polish is still available. I see it locally all the time. In my honest opinion just use 365 as a stand alone product as it was intended to take full advantage of it's properties. That's what I have done as I am testing it out. If you top it, you have essentially changed the surface tension to that of the topper. If you are looking for gloss then polish prior to applying as 365 will not add shine or gloss. If your car is light in color there is no difference in appearance from 365, M21 or UW to the naked eye.
    I have a 2002 Rodeo It's black..paint has high gloss..I would assume that Mirror glaze is better than Ultimate polish..Does 365 replace wax or can you still wax and then 365..

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  • Hernandez.Art13
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    Finally, I wasn't sure what those grey spots were when I was looking through the pictures on my phone. However, with one thorough final inspection, I determined that I missed a spot.

    Before:



    After:

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  • Hernandez.Art13
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    Cellphone shots



    ^ Just cleaned it up with D114




    ^ I didn't clay, polish or anything, just did a waterless wash and put paint protect on on the side view mirror. I picked it up at Oreily's today and was eager to try it out.

    Also, as I was opening up the bottle, I got some on my sweater and went to run errands with it on my sweater. Smells pretty good, but toxic, nonetheless. I then went to wash my hands hours later with the liquid still on my sweater. I checked if my sweater beaded water and yes it it did lol. (not recommending it be put on one's clothes btw)
    I can neither confirm nor deny that I did, but when in doubt, read the label on the back of the bottle.

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  • The Guz
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    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    Unfortunately, Brake Dust Barrier has been discontinued. D156 Synthetic Express Spray Wax is commonly used on wheels for the very reasons being discussed here. It's quick and easy to apply, leaves no residue behind in tight areas, and is extremely durable. D156 would be our first recommendation for someone looking to wax their wheels.
    That's sad to hear. Brake Dust Barrier is a very good product and very durable. It had it's quirks. Although D156 is easy to use and can be used after every car wash. Based on the MSDS it can survive the high temps generated from that area. It worked well on wheels when I was using it prior to the coating I am now using.

    Originally posted by 02Rodeo View Post
    Is it better to wax before or after pp365...and is Ultimate Polish still available...I do see Mirror glaze in stores now..
    Ultimate Polish is still available. I see it locally all the time. In my honest opinion just use 365 as a stand alone product as it was intended to take full advantage of it's properties. That's what I have done as I am testing it out. If you top it, you have essentially changed the surface tension to that of the topper. If you are looking for gloss then polish prior to applying as 365 will not add shine or gloss. If your car is light in color there is no difference in appearance from 365, M21 or UW to the naked eye.

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  • davey g-force
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    You would want to wax AFTER applying PP365, and letting it cure.

    It's not required though, just personal preference.

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  • 02Rodeo
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    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
    Thanks Mike. Wow, I didn't know that.
    Is it better to wax before or after pp365...and is Ultimate Polish still available...I do see Mirror glaze in stores now..

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  • davey g-force
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    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    Unfortunately, Brake Dust Barrier has been discontinued.
    Thanks Mike. Wow, I didn't know that.

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  • JKUCSMA
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    Thanks

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Originally posted by JKUCSMA View Post
    I was wondering if the Paint protect would keep brake dust from sticking to the wheels, so it would be easier to remove?
    Theoretically, any wax or sealant can be applied to wheels to make future cleaning easier. The environment presented by this location is pretty severe, however, and can fairly quickly degrade a typical carnauba wax so synthetics are highly recommended.

    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
    It would certainly help, but I think there would be better products for that.

    BDB (Brake Dust Barrier) is made just for what you mentioned.

    Also, even though it's durable, PP365 is not very slick (I hear), so another sealant like UW might be better at repelling brake dust.
    Unfortunately, Brake Dust Barrier has been discontinued. D156 Synthetic Express Spray Wax is commonly used on wheels for the very reasons being discussed here. It's quick and easy to apply, leaves no residue behind in tight areas, and is extremely durable. D156 would be our first recommendation for someone looking to wax their wheels.

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  • JKUCSMA
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    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
    It would certainly help, but I think there would be better products for that.

    BDB (Brake Dust Barrier) is made just for what you mentioned.

    Also, even though it's durable, PP365 is not very slick (I hear), so another sealant like UW might be better at repelling brake dust.
    Thanks, thought it work since wheel is clear coated.

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  • davey g-force
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    It would certainly help, but I think there would be better products for that.

    BDB (Brake Dust Barrier) is made just for what you mentioned.

    Also, even though it's durable, PP365 is not very slick (I hear), so another sealant like UW might be better at repelling brake dust.

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