Paint Protect

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

If you choose to use a polish prior to applying Paint Protect, whether that be machine application of M205 or hand application of M07 or any other recommended process using any Meguiar's polish or cleaner/polish, there is no need for an IPA wipedown prior to the application of Paint Protect. We have always said this about any of our waxes/sealants, regardless what other companies may state about theirs. If you're using a product that explicitly states in their directions to use a panel wipe of some sort prior to application then you should follow those directions. When staying within the Meguiar's lineup, there is no need to do this. That said, if you wish to use IPA or some other panel wipe prior to applying Paint Protect, that is certainly fine as well. You just don't have to.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Ive been told BY MEGUIARS, not necessary..

I stand by my statement about being user preference. If one decides to remove them then so be it. It won't hurt any thing. If one decided not to remove the polishing oils again it won't hurt anything. It all comes down to what someone feels comfortable with.

Now if someone is using another manufacturers polishes then I would more than likely remove those polishing oils just to be on the "safe" side.

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

This should make an interesting read for you.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/31186-miscible-immiscible-wax-paint-sealant-bonding.html

A little old but still applicable.

Just go from one process to the next, you don'th ave to wash the car in-between processes.

Wash --> Clay --> Clean --> Polish --> Wax


At least when using the Meguiar's product line as our chemist made all the products they know how to make each product build off the results of the previously applied product.

By staying inside a single product line there is Synergistic Chemical Compatibility. (SCC)

[DimensionAutoDetailing]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

Trust me, I asked the EXACT same question. I was told that the products are made to work together and that any sort of IPA or prep wipe is not necessary. The oils left behind from either M205 or UP WILL NOT effect the PP to bond, properly. Maybe Mike Stoops can chime in...

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Ive been told BY MEGUIARS, not necessary..

What's not necessary?

The polish is to bring out the gloss, then followed up with 365 to seal everything in. As I stated, would the high oil content in UP affect 365's ability to fully bond vs a thoroughly cleaned surface?

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

yeah, but I was thinking more on the idea of whether it would bond to the paint better without the polish. Would the high content of polishing oils in UP affect 365 PP's ability to fully bond to the paint so to speak?

[DimensionAutoDetailing]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

That's completely up to the user. All of Meguiar's products are intended to work with each other.

Ive been told BY MEGUIARS, not necessary..

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I've used Ultimate Polish on occasion and it really brings out the pop affect in darker paints. Because of the high content of polishing oils In UP would you want to do an IPA wipe down afterwards and prior to using 365 PP or apply the 365 right over the top of UP?

That's completely up to the user. All of Meguiar's products are intended to work with each other.

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

That's sad to hear. Brake Dust Barrier is a very good product and very durable. It had it's quirks. Although D156 is easy to use and can be used after every car wash. Based on the MSDS it can survive the high temps generated from that area. It worked well on wheels when I was using it prior to the coating I am now using.



Ultimate Polish is still available. I see it locally all the time. In my honest opinion just use 365 as a stand alone product as it was intended to take full advantage of it's properties. That's what I have done as I am testing it out. If you top it, you have essentially changed the surface tension to that of the topper. If you are looking for gloss then polish prior to applying as 365 will not add shine or gloss. If your car is light in color there is no difference in appearance from 365, M21 or UW to the naked eye.

I've used Ultimate Polish on occasion and it really brings out the pop affect in darker paints. Because of the high content of polishing oils In UP would you want to do an IPA wipe down afterwards and prior to using 365 PP or apply the 365 right over the top of UP?

[Buck91]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Just out of curiosity how critical is the curing time? For example lets say I apply and lightly buff an hour.before a rain shower, will that have any negative effect?

[Hernandez.Art13]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Where have you been hiding?

I know right, I am still detailing like always. However, I have not had time to head over to Meguiar's HQ's for TNOG, since I have been in school full time. I took 6 classes this semester. Great thing is that only 3 more weeks left and I'm done with this semester. Then 2 week vacation and back I go. I am going to Meguiar's 101 tomorrow. I figured I'll swing by and say hi and get to check out what's going on there.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Where have you been hiding?

[Hernandez.Art13]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Some more Paint Protect usage today. I also transferred some in a small pray bottle I bought at Target for about $1 to see if it would work and in fact it did work and worked really well too. I just sprayed some on a yellow foam applicator pad.

Steps:

1. D114 WW the headlights

2. 1500 sanding grit by hand

3. Rotary buff out the sanding marks with M100 and wool pad

4.Rotary Polished with a foam polishing pad and M205

5. Sealed with Paint Protect.

It's my car so if anything doesn't work out, I'll just do it again, because I am not sure paint protect can in fact be used on headlights. I am really liking this stuff. Looks like it's going to be a great choice when I go off and do 2 step or 3 step jobs on my customer's cars. For 1 step I just use D151.



^ Headlights before any detail work was done to them





^1500 grit sanding





^Compounded, polished and Sealed



^ I applied it to my headlights this way. Meaning, transferred some liquid to a small bottle and sprayed on the applicator pad. Not directly to the headlights.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

It won't last that long. It's mostly the carrier oils in it.

[Hernandez.Art13]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

No, I made sure that the flash was used both times while taking the pictures. So the picture conditions were the same in both pictures posted above. The darkening effect was in fact from the paint protect.

[davey g-force]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Cellphone shots



^ Just cleaned it up with D114




^ I didn't clay, polish or anything, just did a waterless wash and put paint protect on on the side view mirror.

Wow. Is that just the lighting / flash in the pic, or did PP365 really shine and darken the appearance of the mirror that much?

If so, there goes the theory that it doesn't impart shine or alter the appearance!!

Love the story about getting it on your sweater btw