Paint Protect

[snozan]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

So i got this bottle, but am confused. Read the thread. And it was said that no extra ordinary outsdide routine was needed- It could go over wax. Howevcer on the bottle it says that before i apply i need to wash the car with a schampo without wax?

Jarred, there really isn't anything special you need to do to prep for this. Of course claying is always a good idea but no IPA wipedown or anything outside the normal wax application routine is needed. You shouldn't have any problems applying this over an existing wax so it should be able to fit into your scenario without issue.

We definitely do NOT classify this as a coating. It's a paint protectant, so it's right in there with waxes and sealants, except that it's crazy durable and the very thin viscosity of the product make the application and wipe off a somewhat unique experience in the world of waxes and sealants.

Am pretty confused - however i trust more in what i quoted then what's translated in swedish on the bottle

[roushstage2]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

On the truck, I don't think I'm going to top it with anything as the different waxes I've been putting on don't seem to be lasting too long for some reason. I've never had this issue before :/ At this point, I'm just looking to put something very durable on it so the paint doesn't oxidize up on me so quickly.

My other cars, yes. That is precisely why I waited 7 days to even wash it, based on what Mike had said about PP. I may even just top the other cars with a second coat of PP as it seems to darken the black paint when applied. Washing the Mustang yesterday and drying with UQW...the paint looks terrific! Granted, there is a coat of ULW on the paint too.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I am hoping the combination of PP and ULW will work well in the California sun as the Roush is back outside 24/7 again after being booted out of the garage by the ST. I washed the car today after applying PP last Friday. ULW was applied a few months back when the Roush was still in the garage.

I've got PP on two of the three vehicles now. I just applied it to the single stage paint F150 yesterday to hopefully help combat the sun destroying the other waxes I've been putting on the paint. The Fusion was in the body shop earlier this year and had PP applied last fall, though I can tell it needs another coat now.

Wait 7-10 days before you top it so you get the maximum performance out of 365. If it were me I'd stick with D156 or UQW as a topper. Not only is it quick but you can do it after every wash as a drying aid or every other wash.

[roushstage2]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I am hoping the combination of PP and ULW will work well in the California sun as the Roush is back outside 24/7 again after being booted out of the garage by the ST. I washed the car today after applying PP last Friday. ULW was applied a few months back when the Roush was still in the garage.

I've got PP on two of the three vehicles now. I just applied it to the single stage paint F150 yesterday to hopefully help combat the sun destroying the other waxes I've been putting on the paint. The Fusion was in the body shop earlier this year and had PP applied last fall, though I can tell it needs another coat now.




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[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Anyone have any new to add or experiences with regards to durability.

Personally, I've used it several times. The slickness seems to dissipate rather quickly when compared to something like UPW, at least IMO. For me it seems to continue beading for quite some time. I would say from a casual observation it seems to bead for 2-3 months with weekly (sometimes every other week) tunnel washes, nothing scientific however. UPW seems to keep the slickness longer IMO.

Almost at a year with one of my cars with PP365. Mag chloride did the lower portions of it in early, but the halfway up the doors and above? Still going strong.

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

Anyone have any new to add or experiences with regards to durability.

Personally, I've used it several times. The slickness seems to dissipate rather quickly when compared to something like UPW, at least IMO. For me it seems to continue beading for quite some time. I would say from a casual observation it seems to bead for 2-3 months with weekly (sometimes every other week) tunnel washes, nothing scientific however. UPW seems to keep the slickness longer IMO.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

can i use this after compounding and polishing?

thanks

Yes. PP365 is a form a protection.

[Rhnos]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

can i use this after compounding and polishing?

thanks

[greg0303]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

So I guess Paint Protect description as wipe on/wipe off type of product has some margin of 3-5 minute initial cure time. Based on posts above this initial cure is quite important.

I know Meguiars usually recommends a second coat on many of their LSP products to ensure even coverage. Would the same apply for PP365 after an initial 24 hour cure or would there be no point in doing so with this particular product?

The second layer of Paint Protect is optional after at least 24 hours past the first application. Of course it won't mean two layers of protection but just a more uniform coverage.

[fordf150]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I know Meguiars usually recommends a second coat on many of their LSP products to ensure even coverage. Would the same apply for PP365 after an initial 24 hour cure or would there be no point in doing so with this particular product?

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I applied PP365 to a black Optima today. Washed and clayed it first. Applied easily but appeared blotchy after removal. I assume this will go away after all cures. Anyone else have this issue or recommendations to avoid this?

It is a bit oily but it needs to be applied very thin. I posted this video in my review on a new way to apply it. I let it sit on the paint for 5 mins prior to removing it. Applying it this way and it will kind of level it out more on the paint. A little product goes a long way. The blotchyness should go away after the first wash if all else fails.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?62699-Paint-Protect-365-review/page8

[RDVT4ME]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I applied PP365 to a black Optima today. Washed and clayed it first. Applied easily but appeared blotchy after removal. I assume this will go away after all cures. Anyone else have this issue or recommendations to avoid this?

[DasBurninator]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

You are right the polishing oils should not affect it.

I will say this. Paint protect beads better in the rain than it does with a hose nozzle. How's the sheeting action on those areas?

I haven't had a chance to even wash the car since I applied on the hood. I should finally have some time this weekend.

In the rain it was completely flat, no beads, rest of the car is beading great.

Perhaps it was because there were no polishing oils?

It would be interesting if you could polish again and then apply PP365 without trying to remove the polishing oils first.

Being no polishing oils doesn't make sense either. Rest of the car was only clayed and not polished. No issues with any other panel except the one I polished.

If I can get the GF to stop driving the Mini cooper for a day I will do some testing on her car. It needs something on it for winter anyways.

[davey g-force]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

I guess it is possible there were still polishing oils left behind. But something with that doesn't exactly add up. Polishing oils by themselves would produce beading on the paint. The paint acts like nothing was ever applied and it was flat. As far as water behavior on the paint it was very similar to your first tests.

Perhaps it was because there were no polishing oils?

It would be interesting if you could polish again and then apply PP365 without trying to remove the polishing oils first.

[The Guz]

Re: Paint Protect - 365 Day Durability

You are right the polishing oils should not affect it.

I will say this. Paint protect beads better in the rain than it does with a hose nozzle. How's the sheeting action on those areas?