Ultimate Polish

[Ron500]

Re: Ultimate Polish

excellent bottle design, how super modern and sleek. does this fit in cleaner category such as with Swirl X or with polish category such as DC1.

[Michael PALERO]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Thanks! You guys are keeping me jumping today, no doubt about it. I'm off to Vegas early tomorrow morning to give live updates from the SEMA show floor, but I'll still be answering questions through the day as well.

I'm also very impressed at how fast and thorough all Mike's responses are.
That folks, is why Mike Stoops is the Internet Technical Specialist!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Polish

I guess there's no need to buy the professional versions since these are available OTC. The only advantage of the professional variants is that they are body shop safe right? But in terms of usage, they are pretty much similar, right?

The pro products are also rotary compatible, which carries a ton of weight in many instances. But yes, our ability to trickle down the pro technology into consumer products is pretty cool.

Mike, kudos in keeping up with all the comments/questions in all 2011 new product announcement threads!!!

Thanks! You guys are keeping me jumping today, no doubt about it. I'm off to Vegas early tomorrow morning to give live updates from the SEMA show floor, but I'll still be answering questions through the day as well.

[Marc08EX]

Re: Ultimate Polish

This, along with ultimate compound and ultimate wax are great stuff!!!

I guess there's no need to buy the professional versions since these are available OTC. The only advantage of the professional variants is that they are body shop safe right? But in terms of usage, they are pretty much similar, right?

Mike, kudos in keeping up with all the comments/questions in all 2011 new product announcement threads!!!

[MrWaxer]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Awesome...

[Tuck91]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Very nice.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Michael, is this product similiar to Deep Crystal Step 1 ?

Ultimate Polish is vastly different in almost every way - SMAT abrasives, lots of polishing oils, ease of application and removal, cleaning strength, etc.

[akimel]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Michael,

Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?

It certainly sounds to me like Ultimate Polish can be used, indeed is designed to be used, as a finishing polish. 85RD is considered by many to be the premier jeweling polish. It will be interesting to read the reviews of UP. I'm sure many people will be trying it out and comparing it to other jeweling polishes. It may have one advantage--namely, it is based on SMAT technology; hence the abrasives do not need to be broken down. One can stop the buffing cycle at any point. That's one reason I like M205.

Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful. It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.

If one intends to apply a non-Meguiar's synthetic sealant, then UP may not save any steps for you. EZ-Creme is a synthetic glaze, and therefore compatible with synthetic sealants. I imagine that UP is compatible with NXT and Ultimate Wax; but because UP is (apparently) oil-based, an IPA wipedown may be needed if applying a non-Meguiar's synthetic sealant. But of course, I have no idea I'm just talking through my hat. I may be totally off-base on this.

I'm really looking forward to reading the reviews of Ultimate Polish.

[lukaszr]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Michael, is this product similiar to Deep Crystal Step 1 ?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Polish

So then what I'm gathering is this product is basically a touch less aggressive then Swirl-X, and contains a healthy dose of polishing oils?

That's a pretty accurate statement.

Michael,

Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?

Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful.

It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.

Don't lose sight of the fact that Ultimate Polish is a consumer product designed for use by D/A or hand. It is not a rotary compatible product. If you're using a rotary and looking for maximum refinement then M205 is probably still the better choice. The finish left by Ultimate Polish feels much like that left by M07, M81 or other pure polishes - it's very glossy but has that bit of a grab on the towel due to the level of polishing oils in it.

Any word on using this on a light color? I know other polishes do not show much.

From the perspective of the polishing oils alone it isn't going to yield anything very different from other pure polishes. But since it utilizes SMAT abrasives it can increase the clarity of the finish much the way M205 does, especially when used with a D/A. That can be very beneficial on lighter colors as it helps achieve a nice crisp finish.

[joaks]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Any word on using this on a light color? I know other polishes do not show much.

[gmck]

Re: Ultimate Polish

Michael,

Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?

Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful.

It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.

[OhioCarBuff]

Re: Ultimate Polish

So then what I'm gathering is this product is basically a touch less aggressive then Swirl-X, and contains a healthy dose of polishing oils?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Polish

So if they cut the same and ultimate polish has more oils, it's a better product

why bother with swirlX then ?

Exactly what I'm wondering, why keep swirl X? How strong is the cleaning ability of this product in relation to the other paint claners like 205? Does it work well by hand as well as DA?

SwirlX has had an interesting life thus far. It is more widely available than Ultimate Compound yet UC outsells it by a huge margin. We believe this just proves that idea that most people tend to grab the most aggressive product they can find in the hopes it will get the job done faster.

Ultimate Polish is not only a very different product to SwirlX, but it's obviously being positioned a bit differently as well. Rather than a less aggressive alternative to UC it's being looked at as a compliment or follow up to UC. SwirlX was never really looked upon that way in the market place. Obviously Ultimate Polish can be used as a light cleaner, or for use on very delicate paint systems, when UC is more aggressive than needed.

[akimel]

Re: Ultimate Polish

This product looks like a winner! With the disappearance of Deep Crystal Cleaner there's been a gap in the Meguiar's lineup. I know that SwirlX was intended to fill this gap, yet I suspect that it has not done so. And now we have Ultimate Polish, which will function both as a fine paint cleaner and a glaze. This will be a product that enthusiasts will be able to eager to use several times a year. Well done!