zymol

[HagFan]

Re: zymol

We should stipulate that once the conversation turns to $7000 wax, it's basically over. Or at least you have to qualify the statement with the "lifetime supply" as onnfire has explained.

[kenwarthen]

Re: zymol

Zymol's a scam. There are always enough people with more money than sense to fall for persuasive pitches like Zymol's. After all, if it's that expensive it must be the best, right?

[yakky]

Re: zymol

Zymol's a scam. There are always enough people with more money than sense to fall for persuasive pitches like Zymol's. After all, if it's that expensive it must be the best, right?

I could not have said it better myself. I have purchased and used the Wal-Mart Zymol, Carbon and the Estate Sampler kit. None of them did anything for me lookswise, especially for the price. I found the gloss levels to be way down compared to other waxes. Add the fact that they just fall flat on their face in the summer (3 weeks heat+frequent rains=no more beading).

The beauty of Meguiars products, is they do not focus on just one aspect. They last, look great in various conditions and are easy to use. Add in fantastic support for the 1 bottle a year customer, how can you beat that?

[angusdope]

Re: zymol

Zymol is overrated, overpriced and not worth the money. Also, the point about the lifetime refills being marketed at detailers is invalid, since they will only sell you Royale wax once they are satisfied you are not using it for business purposes (unless you are a Zymol approved detailer!). I'll stick with my Meguiar's.

[d.mopar]

Re: zymol

it is kinda nice they use like all natural elements in like all there products if anyone has checked the website. they are crazy fancy. i mean they say heat ur leather with hair dryer or let sit in sun before applying product. i think we really need to see the test between zymol and meguiars as mike phillips said he would perform the test. i am not for zymol but ill say again meguiars could get some technology off of them, and using meguiars prices, well meguiars would be unbeatable if not already.

[BlueZero]

Re: zymol

let sit in sun before applying product

I do that with Meguairs leather care also. Parking my truck in the sun with all the windows up.

[Mayur]

Re: zymol

What do you mean by Technology? Either way its almost guaranteed that they wont share anything. They are competetiors. We own a quiznos store(sandwich shop), we dont go over to subway(rival) and give them our meats or breads. You have to remember that both of them are business' trying to make a profit, not to do what you want. Of course they do listen but to a certain point and not they will not just walk into Zymol hq and share their "technology"

[BlueZero]

Re: zymol

We own a quiznos store

Mmmmm Quiznos... Darn you, now I have to go there for lunch. I am so craving a Classic Italian, I love Quiznos. We had one just down the street from where I work, but they closed up. The place was always packed at lunch. I heard it was bad management. So now I drive the the one all the way across town.

[Detaillab]

Re: zymol

I think there would be a diffrence. Why would the best in the world use zymol, and spend so much money, if they could get the same result from a 15$ wax. It wouldnt make business sense. Why would people spend all that extra money for nothing?

Because human nature is to think that if you pay more for something, it must be better.

Exactly! One of my projects in college was to prove this very point along with the placebo effect. We sold various products at a swap meet for a couple weekends and many people would pay 10X more for the exact same product just because of our marketing. And we had plenty of people who swore that one product tasted much better than another or gave them more energy or took away their pain better than another product, etc, when in fact there were no differences between the ‘like’ products we were offering *except* for marketing strategies, which also included packaging, appearance, etc.

It was a sneaky but fun project and we received lots of attention from this. It was also a great learning experience for us as well as the hundreds of people who bought from us. We had some crowds throughout the days and many of them got a kick out of seeing what was going on once they became wise to what we were doing. If we didn’t have the ethics to refund people’s money after making them privy to what we were really doing, we would have made some great money!

Marketing is very powerful and lots of people pay more for something if they think it’s better. It happens all the time with products such as oil additives, fuel additives, paint care products, skin care products, paint management gadgets, perfumes, shampoos, energy drinks, tools, pharmaceuticals, cereals, etc.

That is so true. When we have a free concert, sparce attendance, but if we charge for admission it sells out.

[the other pc]

Re: zymol

...Also, the point about the lifetime refills being marketed at detailers is invalid, since they will only sell you Royale wax once they are satisfied you are not using it for business purposes ....

Maybe that's only through their European distributors. When I called the factory over here they encouraged it.

Perhaps they find that professional users who are willing to go through the hassles of hand application and container refill shipping are also selling their customers on the whole Zymol process and they cover their costs on wash/clay/clean /polish products.


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[Blr123]

Re: zymol

Hi guys,

Just thought I would mention with regard to the cost of Zymol everything is relative which is why the numbers in both the UK & USA are the same i.e. $7000 in the USA and

[d.mopar]

Re: zymol

What do you mean by Technology? Either way its almost guaranteed that they wont share anything. They are competetiors. We own a quiznos store(sandwich shop), we dont go over to subway(rival) and give them our meats or breads. You have to remember that both of them are business' trying to make a profit, not to do what you want. Of course they do listen but to a certain point and not they will not just walk into Zymol hq and share their "technology"

yeah i understand. i was just thinking along the lines of the way chrysler dodge and jeep used to be. then they all combined. yeah ur right it would never happen tho i think it would be cool. so u own a quiznos, sounds cool, i think u offer more in ur sandwhiches then subway however i like both sandwhich shops sorry.

[03mach1]

Re: zymol

Meguiars is the best for the money in my opinon.

[Thejoyofdriving]

Re: zymol

Meguiars is the best for the money in my opinon.

[onnfire]

Re: zymol

Meguiars is the best, regardless of the money.

But as someone else said, detailing is largely subjective. This thread is pointless because it is arguing about opinions.