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Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

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  • #31
    Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

    21-09B

    We were told that 21-09B is a heavier paint cleaner and is to be used by hand, orbital or DA.

    I moved one panel down on my moms car and repeated my swirling process to give this product a good testing situation as well.

    Panel before



    Panel after swirling



    Panel masked off and what I will be testing.



    Product I will be using.



    First section was with a Hi-Tech applicator pad by hand. Worked the product in several different directions and did 2 applications. I noticed a significant difference in gloss between the two applications as well as defect removal. I still noticed some RIDS with both of the hand applications, but remember I only did 2 applications.



    Product in action.



    1st application. You can see here, most of the swirling and hazing is gone and some RIDS are still present.



    2nd application. I was amazed with the added gloss between the 2 applications here.



    By hand with the Hi-Tech applicator was great with this product, easy applicator and easy removal, very impressed with the gloss, but it didn't seem to provide as much gloss as 21-13B. There were still some RIDS present but for only doing 2 applications, I was very impressed.

    Up next was working with 21-09B by hand with a terry cloth. Again, same process with 21-13B, I cut up a Soft Buff Terry Towel into squares. I worked the product in for about a minute and did 2 applications.



    After 1st application.



    After 2nd application.



    Working between the Hi-Tech applicator pad and the terry cloth squares with this product, I didn't see a huge difference, which could be user error or just the diminishing abrasives in the product. I will try to do some more testing to see if I can narrow it down.

    Up next was the G110 with a W-8006 at speed 5. WOW, does this product have a work time or what!! I was very impressed with that fact that this product could remove defects and at the same time be workable for a long time. If you feel heavy compounds such as M105, you will feel a more cream feeling while with 21-09B, you feel a more liquid feeling.





    After just 1 pass...I didn't need to do another one!!



    Here is 21-09B with the old G100 and a W8006 at speed 5.



    Again, just one pass, perfection!



    My overall thoughts with this product stand about equal with my thoughts on 21-13B, AMAZING. Both products are very easy to apply and remove. Both have amazing work time and they provide gloss while removing defects.

    Thank you everybody for being patient while I got the results up and thank you Mike Pennington and Meguiar's for letting me test products once again!

    If you have any questions, I will try my best to answer them, but I can't tell you everything.

    Ryan
    Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

    This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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    • #32
      Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

      so could this "spray wax" be used like a "wipe on, buff off" product? In other words, could it be sprayed onto a panel, and without waiting then buffed into the panel with a microfiber until it disappears?

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      • #33
        Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

        Originally posted by Mark Kleis View Post
        so could this "spray wax" be used like a "wipe on, buff off" product? In other words, could it be sprayed onto a panel, and without waiting then buffed into the panel with a microfiber until it disappears?

        Not according to what I was told to do with the product.

        Ryan
        Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

        This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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        • #34
          Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

          Good review Ryan! Very thorough. However, I'm still cringing a little from that attack made on your mom's Honda with that piece of carpet.

          Mike
          Why do we drive on a Parkway, and park on a Driveway

          George Carlin

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          • #35
            Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

            Originally posted by Mikejl View Post
            Good review Ryan! Very thorough. However, I'm still cringing a little from that attack made on your mom's Honda with that piece of carpet.

            Mike
            Ohh yea...I just about got kicked out of the house when she saw me swirling her car. But I told her it was for a good cause and she somewhat, sort of, kind of accepted it.

            Then after I polished them all out and did the laundry she was fine...

            Ryan
            Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

            This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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            • #36
              Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

              I'm very, very interested in the "spray wax" product!
              Originally posted by Blueline
              I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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              • #37
                Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                Awesome, awesome reviews Ryan. Absolutely fantastic work. I can not wait til these products are revealed at SEMA.
                '05 Arctic Blue Pearl Acura TSX
                '03 Silver Lexus RX 300

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                • #38
                  Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                  The spray wax and the heavy duty compound has my attention. When is SEMA again? I need to place an order in the coming weeks and would love to get some of the new product.
                  NOTE: Post count does not reflect actual detailing knowledge.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                    Thanks guys and yes, they are going to be awesome products!!

                    Ryan
                    Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

                    This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                      Awesome write up, Ryan! Thanks for taking the time to document your efforts so fully, we really appreciate it.

                      This image is very impressive as the amount of darkening of the finish is astonishing:
                      Michael Stoops
                      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                        Thanks Ryan, for taking the time to test and do the write up. By machine you achieved very impressive results. Can't wait to be able to buy the product. Thanks.
                        quality creates its own demand

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                        • #42
                          Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                          Hey Ryan thanks for the review and taking the time and effort to share it

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                          • #43
                            Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                            Thanks Mike and others!! I too was blown away at the darkness added on that half of the paint.

                            Ryan
                            Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

                            This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                              Awesome write up, Ryan! Thanks for taking the time to document your efforts so fully, we really appreciate it.

                              This image is very impressive as the amount of darkening of the finish is astonishing:
                              That is indeed very impressive!

                              Thank you for the detailed write up and pictures.

                              P.S. I can't believe you used an old piece of carpet to swirl up your mom's car.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Ryan L's testing of 21-13B, 21-09B and 21-21A

                                Originally posted by Piku View Post
                                That is indeed very impressive!

                                Thank you for the detailed write up and pictures.

                                P.S. I can't believe you used an old piece of carpet to swirl up your mom's car.
                                Thanks! It was the best thing I could find to re-create swirls. Remember, don't try this at home folks!

                                Ryan
                                Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway.

                                This is your life. Choose to live it to the fullest.

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