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[rapport25]

Re: Multiple products damage finish

To make it short im working on a 08 sierra.. clean, new products, UC hazes causes swirls, swirlx same, scrqtchx same, UP same.. bought all of these they all scratch and swirl my finish even putting them on with new applicators.. does meguiars not make ANYTHING for paint this fickle?

Megs products are excellent . What applicator pads and towels are you using?

I would say its either poor quality pads towels. Have you clayed the car first? Megs smooth surface clay kit is excellent.

Please give us a step by step of your process. You may need to tweek your technique a little.

Hth's

Rappy.

[Brian Hann]

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I apologize if you have already read through this but here is an excellent thread written by our forum moderator, Mike Stoops, covering this very issue.

The Challenge of Delicate Paint

[Markus Kleis]

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does meguiars not have a single product for cleaning deswirling fickle paint?

Meguiar's has many products for jobs like this, because like I mentioned before, there is no magic bullet for this type of thing. Correcting paint can range from easy as pie to incredibly complicated and difficult at times.

Again, I understand and appreciate your frustration - imagine having this occur on a client's car...it's even worse! We'll get this figured out.

For now, as Mur suggested, I highly suggest calling customer care and having someone help you. Communicating over forums can add frustration in and of itself, so why not give them a call and see if they can sort it out and get you going in the right direction.

The number is listed on the back of the products.

***I merged the original thread with this thread so that all of the information can be found in a single location. Outsideshot, please do not create any other new posts about this issue.***

[outsideshot23]

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Meguiar's has many products for jobs like this, because like I mentioned before, there is no magic bullet for this type of thing. Correcting paint can range from easy as pie to incredibly complicated and difficult at times.

Again, I understand and appreciate your frustration - imagine having this occur on a client's car...it's even worse! We'll get this figured out.

For now, as Mur suggested, I highly suggest calling customer care and having someone help you. Communicating over forums can add frustration in and of itself, so why not give them a call and see if they can sort it out and get you going in the right direction.

The number is listed on the back of the products.

***I merged the original thread with this thread so that all of the information can be found in a single location. Outsideshot, please do not create any other new posts about this issue.***

tried that.. worhtless... guy tells me well if you used swirlx thats about as delicate as we have to offer.. you might need to just take it to a professional......

lots of help there.. i just tried the products i mentioned with just a foam pad and i found some cleaner wax and tried it too.. wax covers up most of it but i dont want to cover it up i want to fix it then wax it.. i read that long article i might have to try the color x.. after that im not sure what else to do.. i could have already had it fixed professionally for the money i have in products that i probably wont use again

[outsideshot23]

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the foam "meguiars" pad....

[Andy M.]

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You are certainly frustrated at this point and there are a lot of members trying to help you as well as Mark and Brian who is a cusomer care specialist. Pictures would be the best option so we can see what you are talking about.

We will figure it out for you. Sometimes you need to step back and slow down.

Andy

[outsideshot23]

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well like i said .. i keep repeateing myself.. I have already waxed over everything just to cover it up.. I have read your articles about how to do this and that by hand.. what products to use and how to use each one.. and all i have to show for it is a hole in my wallet and a truck i dont want tot ake out in public that i have alot of money dumped into.. surely someone has had this problem before.... thats the person im looking for

[outsideshot23]

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Ya they are trying to help me.. making repeat myself over and over is just frustrating me more.. they say call the hotline the guy basically blows me off or doesnt even know the products that well.. tell me what to do next.. yopu guys know more then me .. you say it ill try it

[Tuck91]

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If ypou honestly have a truck to do and do it the way meguiars says.. it would take 10 hours.. people have jobs.. thats just asking too much and i have yet to try a product from them that doesnt ruin something on my truck.. let alone makes it olook good...

It just might take ten hours.

You cannot expect a high gloss swirl free finish & clean Sierra in "one hour or less"

These things take time.

If I were you I would start over and give the truck a good wash & clay treatment, then go over the truck with a cleaner wax such as M06 or ColorX.

Although unless its badly marred I am suprised you are able to see such bad marring on a metallic paint.

Your posts are not helping much either as I have no idea if you are talking about the whole truck or just a spot on the fender ,you just seem to blame all the products but I think it may be your technique.

[outsideshot23]

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It just might take ten hours.

You cannot expect a high gloss swirl free finish & clean Sierra in "one hour or less"

These things take time.

If I were you I would start over and give the truck a good wash & clay treatment, then go over the truck with a cleaner wax such as M06 or ColorX.

Although unless its badly marred I am suprised you are able to see such bad marring on a metallic paint.

Your posts are not helping much either as I have no idea if you are talking about the whole truck or just a spot on the fender ,you just seem to blame all the products but I think it may be your technique.

good grief man again?? please read the whole post.. i said exactly what how and where i used these products.. ya i might be wrong i hope i am and thats the problem and not that none of these products work on this paint..

[rapport25]

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It just might take ten hours.
These things take time.

you just seem to blame all the products but I think it may be your technique.

I agree with Tuck.

I have a Black Pearl VW. I spent 5 days last year and 3 days this year. And now it is flawless. Last year it was around 80% swirl free. Now its 100% swirl free. You have picked the hardest colour to maintain. I have been detailing cars for well over 15 yrs and all I can say once you have a process that works you will be fine. I would suggest going to one of Mike's open classes. As they seem a great help to people.

[outsideshot23]

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I dont have a problem taking the time as long as I know im using the right products for the right purpose in the right order.. frustrating wasting time and moneyw itht he wrong products... i think it might be the microfiber as much as anything. i think my paint is so soft applying anything with microfiber is out of the question.. i guess i could invest in a good buffer but money is tight now.. just spent about 12k in audio in this thing and im tapped.. anyone know any good buffer/pad combos that are wellw oerth the money?

[outsideshot23]

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and as far as tuck said about re washing going over it with claybar then color x.. once you do color x doesnt that mean your done?? Dont i need to get the swirls out before i go to waxing?

[Markus Kleis]

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Hi outsidershot23,

I just spoke with Brian Hann, a customer care specialist (he chimed in earlier in this thread as well). He is going to get in touch with you via private message and work with you to resolve your concerns.

Please hang tight while he contacts you. Hopefully we can get this figured out soon enough.

[Tuck91]

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I dont have a problem taking the time as long as I know im using the right products for the right purpose in the right order.. frustrating wasting time and moneyw itht he wrong products... i think it might be the microfiber as much as anything. i think my paint is so soft applying anything with microfiber is out of the question.. i guess i could invest in a good buffer but money is tight now.. just spent about 12k in audio in this thing and im tapped.. anyone know any good buffer/pad combos that are wellw oerth the money?

Theres hundreds of good pad and product combos out there.

But you wont know how well any of them will work until you start using it on the surface of the truck.

A PCXP and/or G110 & a good assortment of pads & products will run you about $350 - $500. Maybe more depending on what you want and where you buy.

Just so you know the products you recently bought and have on hand are not a waste of money as they most likely could still be used on their own or with a combination of other products.

I understand your frustrated but I just do not think your getting the fact that it may be your technique and not the products that is the problem, and I am not basing this statement solely on your "Mothers" comment in the other thread.

Why go out and spend more money on more products when what you currently have just may work when used properly.