Pro Advice needed before I quote Lamborghini

[Scottwax]

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Looks like you brought the finish to the highest level it is capable of.

Paint jobs like that can be a real nightmare because until you start in on it, there really isn't any way to know how much you can bring it back.

[buda]

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That is what is needed for a long term repair is a complete removal of all paint and a new paint job. At least on the top.

Regards
Bud Abraham

[Totoland Mach]

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That paint looks like it has been repainted and is now cracking. If that is, in fact, paint cracking there is nothing you can do to remove those marks. They come from improper preparation of the surface.

What year is the vehicle. That might help to determine the type of paint on it.

Do you have a paint thickness guage, you can measure the paint thickness which will tell you immediately if it has been repainted.

Also, take a white towel with some wax on it and rub the top of the car. If you get red paint it is a single stage paint, if you get nothing or dirt only and no red it is a single stage.

Regards
Bud Abraham
DETAIL PLUS SYSTEMS

Bud: this is a continuation of the thread I started. It's single stage paint and has some bad areas on it. I told the owner there are signs of re-paint on it when I was detailing the car. There was even primer showing on one of the air scoop's edges.

Hopefully, the owner will take my advice and get some "quality" repainting.

Toto

[buda]

Re: Pro Advice needed before I quote Lamborghini

That paint looks like it has been repainted and is now cracking. If that is, in fact, paint cracking there is nothing you can do to remove those marks. They come from improper preparation of the surface.

What year is the vehicle. That might help to determine the type of paint on it.

Do you have a paint thickness guage, you can measure the paint thickness which will tell you immediately if it has been repainted.

Also, take a white towel with some wax on it and rub the top of the car. If you get red paint it is a single stage paint, if you get nothing or dirt only and no red it is a single stage.

Regards
Bud Abraham
DETAIL PLUS SYSTEMS

[Totoland Mach]

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Mike: I thought you'd like to see how bad the paint was on the roof of the Countach.

Here is a shot in all its' ugliness!



I think the owner is convinced to get the bad portions of the car re-painted. The rest of the vehicle is in good shape for a driver car...certainly not a concours quality car.

Totoland Mach

[Totoland Mach]

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Thanks for the great advice Mike! I've already had a call from a restoration shop that specializes in Ferrari and Lambo. The owner said he wants to concentrate on mechanical restoration and consider me for detailing (he hates it btw LOL).

The car owners are not picky on price, but they are on quality. That is my goal as this isn't a full-time business for me, but it is important to maintain a high degree of quality work.

Take care Mike. Once again, thanks to you and everyone else for your input and suggestions. They proved to be valuable.

Richard

[Mike Phillips]

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The good side is the owner is not even going to wash the car any longer. And he won't trust anyone but me with the finish.
Richard

Cha-ching $$$

When it comes to commanding prices on the higher end of the spectrum, you need word of mouth advertising in the way of testimonials from your customers and results that speak for themself.

Make sure you give this customer plenty of your business cards to share with this car buddies and be sure to ask him for referrals. It might be a good time to consider raising your prices if you haven't already.

[Totoland Mach]

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i wonder what kind of finish #3 or #81 would have left on it?

It turned out to be single stage right?

Sneek: I threw a "ton" of products at it! Mostly Meg's stuff, but a few other products were tried (Poorboy's SSR 2.5, Adams Revive, etc).

And, yes, it was single stage paint. I did point out to the owner that someone had repainted the passenger door and a few other areas.

Toto

[sneek]

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i wonder what kind of finish #3 or #81 would have left on it?

It turned out to be single stage right?

[Totoland Mach]

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Good job....BUT how did that car get so bad in the first place?

Viper: from the info I gathered, the owner had someone "detail" the car for $100. I've looked at pics when he first purchased & delivered the car and they didn't look bad.

I suspect the person used a rotary + wool pad + bad habits and that is the result.

The good side is the owner is not even going to wash the car any longer. And he won't trust anyone but me with the finish.

Richard

[Newport Viper]

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Good job....BUT how did that car get so bad in the first place?

[hammer55]

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thanks for the help, you can tell I am not much on truly detailing, until I bought my black car, now I need to be because of the clairity of lack paint, cant stand the unkept look of black

Hammer: depends on the area. For instance, there is a lip on the front bumper (just below the hood/fender area...you can see it in the picture) that only can be used in a back/forth motion. Then, those air scoops on the lower spoiler could be circular. It's tedious work, but that's the difference between detailing and just waxing.

Toto[/quote]

[Totoland Mach]

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Totoland Mach
when applying to the nooks and crannys do you have to just go back and forth or in a circular motion??

Hammer: depends on the area. For instance, there is a lip on the front bumper (just below the hood/fender area...you can see it in the picture) that only can be used in a back/forth motion. Then, those air scoops on the lower spoiler could be circular. It's tedious work, but that's the difference between detailing and just waxing.

Toto

[hammer55]

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The problem with the car is there are lots of nooks and angular areas where you have to apply product by hand.

Totoland Mach[/quote]
when applying to the nooks and crannys do you have to just go back and forth or in a circular motion??

[Totoland Mach]

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Wow, that was a happy ending... 1st price

So you pretty much cut the oxidation with #83 while using #7 to nourish the paint, and then going over the whole car using ColorX as a final cleaner/polish (and for protection)? Just trying to get the exact process

Zet: that was pretty much the process. I worked the 83 for a long time, constantly washing the pads on the Cyclo and PC (some areas the cyclo just wouldn't fit). Then I worked #7 a few times until I thought the paint had enough oils. Finally ColorX.

The problem with the car is there are lots of nooks and angular areas where you have to apply product by hand.

Totoland Mach