Pro Advice needed before I quote Lamborghini

[sneek]

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Awsome work! did you polish the roof anyways? I seems to look better!

What did you use?

[Mike Phillips]

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Congratulations on taking what you had to work with to its maximum potential. It just goes to show you never know what you can do until you try.

Best of all, you've demonstrated your skills and knowledge of the art of polishing paint and proven yourself to the decision maker for selecting future detailers.

[Totoland Mach]

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Okay Mike and everyone that pitched in.

Here's some after shots. The roof is beyond fixing except a repaint.

Here's a shot of that awful engine scoop. It's about 75% back to life (although probably short-lived with the overall condition of the paint)



Next is the too far gone roof. Repaint Time for the Owner.



The overall appearance of the car is improved (if you don't look at the roof which is waist high LOL)



Here's another overall shot. Everything else came out just fine.



I did get to maneuver this car in my driveway. Rear vision doesn't exist! The window cranks down to about a 3" wide opening. There is no power steering and I've parked better 2.5 ton military trucks! BUT, BUT...that motor has the most incredible sound. Italian V12's just have an exotic Formula sound that give you goose bumps.

Take care all....I have an "easy" Black Roush tomorrow.

Totoland Mach

[Totoland Mach]

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Mike and everyone: Thanks a ton for the tips and advice. I am still working on the car (believe me...this one "ain't" for money) and a lot of the areas came out pretty good. The roof is shot...a repaint is in order for several parts of the car.

Mike: I ended up using several products with both the Cyclo and the pc...and once again, the BEST product for this car was Good Old Color X. There must be some oils in that product, cause the Lambo soaked them up good. But the results will speak for themselves. I'll post some pics tonight.

I can't thank you all enough! What a great bunch of detail enthusiasts we have here.

Totoland Mach

[Mike Phillips]

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My vote (judging solely on the pics provided) that the finish can not be saved on that Lamborghini.

I'm with Joe, judging from nothing but the pictures, single stage or BC/CC, that paint job is past the point of no return.

Good luck with it.

[Totoland Mach]

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Not to doubt the owner of this car, but are you sure it's a "real" Lamborghini ? The stance of it in the photos and proportions look like a kit car? Just asking, no offense intended.

Not Offended at all msuperbauer. Yes, it's a real Lambo.

The car is supposed to be here around 5:30 pm CST today. I want the owner to stick around while I do a test panel (probably the air intake scoop). Then, it's gonna be a go/no-go from that point.

Totoland Mach

[buda]

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Sorry my question was misleading. What I wanted him to tell me specifically was what exactly was wrong.

As it turns out, it was not even a clear coat in the firstplace which shows us we need to be very certain of what we are doing in the detail process.

It is easy to determine if a vehicle has single stage or two stage paint systems.

Just take a white towel with a little wax and rub it on the paint. In this case, if you get red it is single stage, if you get no color it is clear coated.

Question: "If you get just a little bit of color what is it?"

Bud abraham

[msuperbauer]

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Not to doubt the owner of this car, but are you sure it's a "real" Lamborghini ? The stance of it in the photos and proportions look like a kit car? Just asking, no offense intended.

[Scottwax]

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Wouldn’t having a “beater” pad for those special occasions be more efficient?

Not really, I can go over a car by hand if it is heavily oxidized for the first step as quickly as by machine. No need to stop and clean out the pad, just refold the towel and move on. That would only be for very heavy oxidized paint, just to break the surface up. If the paint isn't heavily oxidized, I'd just start with the Cyclo.

[Superior Shine]

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I can see, I can see!! Thanks

I agree single stage is a bit of a different animal -





He will have to do a test spot first to be 100% sure it is toast.

My vote (judging solely on the pics provided) that the finish can not be saved on that Lamborghini.

[the other pc]

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..If I decide to go ahead and the car paint comes out to my expectations, I'll probably lock in several high end cars in the future…

Way to go. Keep us informed!

…I think going over a heavily oxidized car by hand using terry cloth towels for the first step makes sense. It will remove the really nasty top layer without messing up your pads.

Wouldn’t having a “beater” pad for those special occasions be more efficient?

PC:

You missed my point, I was telling the original poster that I did not believe that his orbital/da tools would do the job, that in fact, he could get more friction by hand than these tools….

That’s what I thought you meant. I disagree.

This could be an interesting (and lengthy) discussion in it’s own right. If you’d like to discuss it in detail We could start a new thread devoted to it.


PC.

[hammer55]

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wow that Camaro came out excellent, what a difference a person who knows what they are doing can make

[Scottwax]

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You will get more friction and pressure by hand than with a Cyclo or PC.

Bud Abraham

When it comes to removing oxidation, I would agree. Plus if you use terry cloth towels, you have a thick nap to help keep from rubbing that oxidation back into the paint. You do have to keep refolding the towels though.

Honestly, I think going over a heavily oxidized car by hand using terry cloth towels for the first step makes sense. It will remove the really nasty top layer without messing up your pads.

[Totoland Mach]

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Thanks for the replies folks! That Camaro is way beyond what the Lambo finish is and that's a tribute to your work.

I can borrow a rotary from a friend here in KC and I have 7006, 8006, and 9006 pads.

A little sad humor about the owner. The last person that detailed this car only charged $100 and I promptly told him he probably got his money's worth.

Like I indicated: Wash + Test for single stage + test for finish on a small panel (like that air scoop) = decision time whether to go ahead.

Folks, I appreciate the comments and assistance. If I decide to go ahead and the car paint comes out to my expectations, I'll probably lock in several high end cars in the future.

Totoland Mach

[OctaneGuy]

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Actually, I began my tests on the Camaro with a PC and M83 and the results were promising, but not fast enough to get the job done within an acceptable time period.

I used the rotary with foam pads, primarily W-7006 cutting pad and W-8006 polishing pad using M83. It was finished off with the PC and M80 and #21 with a W9006 pad and PC.

Richard

You can only achieve the results seen on the Camaro with a rotary buffer and a wool cutting pad (s) and heavy compound, then a lighter grit compound and then swirl remover and wax/sealant.

Regards
Bud Abraham