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  • #16
    Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

    Might be wrong, but, I believe the second coat of UW is for coverage, not layering.
    Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
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    '88 Honda

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    • #17
      Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

      Originally posted by Jossy92 View Post
      Might be wrong, but, I believe the second coat of UW is for coverage, not layering.
      Thats correct, but since its a synthetic you can layer it correct?

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      • #18
        Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

        Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post
        Thats correct, but since its a synthetic you can layer it correct?
        I don't think it has ever been proven (or disproven for that matter) that layering actually happens.

        I don't know that there would be any distinction between "layering" a wax vs. a sealant.
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        3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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        • #19
          Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

          I do believe in layering in that it guarantees complete coverage and gives peace of mind to the person waxing his car. But i also think that a small portion of the 2nd layer of wax is negated by the fricyion between the applicator pad and the paint surface and yes, the wax too.. The components of waxes and pure waxes while not enough to clean can also disrupt ever so slightly the wax below

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          • #20
            Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

            Just a word of caution here - we don't allow bashing of anyone or any product here on MOL, so let's not step in that direction, please.

            To 11hemi, if you like Ultimate Wax and your friend likes Zaino, what's the issue? Heck, I know Ford and Chevy guys that actually get along!! I know, huh?!?!?!?

            The reality, though, is that the final wax or sealant you apply isn't the big player in the game of detailing. Sure, there can be some subtle differences in final appearance, but if you apply either one of these two on a badly neglected surface, neither will transform that vehicle into a show winner on it's own.

            But geez, if such a debate can rage between two different synthetic sealants, what do you guys say to hardcore carnauba users?
            Michael Stoops
            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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            • #21
              Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
              But geez, if such a debate can rage between two different synthetic sealants, what do you guys say to hardcore carnauba users?
              Sealants, shmealants--real car guys only use nubas!
              Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
              --Al Kimel

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              • #22
                Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                Car guys who use canaubas are guys who are even crazier about there cars! I mean that in a nice way.. I've used carnauba waxes one way or the other in the past and i've seen the depth and wetness those carnaubas give, its clear why some guys prefer carnaubas vs. sealants regardless of the durabilty disadvantage. Carnauba is here to stay, even in the advent of super synthetic polymer based waxes and sealants..

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                • #23
                  Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                  Originally posted by akimel View Post
                  Sealants, shmealants--real car guys only use nubas!
                  Originally posted by ffboy View Post
                  Car guys who use canaubas are guys who are even crazier about there cars! I mean that in a nice way.. I've used carnauba waxes one way or the other in the past and i've seen the depth and wetness those carnaubas give, its clear why some guys prefer carnaubas vs. sealants regardless of the durabilty disadvantage. Carnauba is here to stay, even in the advent of super synthetic polymer based waxes and sealants..
                  So what do you call a guy who tops Ultimate Wax with M16?
                  Michael Stoops
                  Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                  Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                  • #24
                    Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                    So what do you call a guy who tops Ultimate Wax with M16?
                    Brilliant?
                    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                    --Al Kimel

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                    • #25
                      Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                      Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                      So what do you call a guy who tops Ultimate Wax with M16?
                      A connoisseur!

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                      • #26
                        Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                        Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                        So what do you call a guy who tops Ultimate Wax with M16?
                        Open minded!

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                        • #27
                          Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                          Well, i think open minded is right..Those are guys who are big fans of sealants but who are also into traditional hard-cake type carnauba waxes.. Open minded? well, i think so, since those guys are the ones who like their rides shiny and well protected, so they are "open" to applying a layer of m16 to ensure further protection and want that carnauba shine..

                          Open minded!

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                          • #28
                            Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                            Originally posted by akimel View Post
                            Brilliant?
                            Originally posted by CHzo6 View Post
                            A connoisseur!
                            Originally posted by ffboy View Post
                            Open minded!
                            Well then - an astute, free-thinking devotee of all things paint protecting it is!

                            So we're all in agreement.

                            That wasn't so hard, now, was it?








                            With thanks to thesaurus.com
                            Michael Stoops
                            Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                            Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                            • #29
                              Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                              Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                              So what do you call a guy who tops Ultimate Wax with M16?
                              Me.


                              2000 Ford Explorer XLT "Deuce"
                              2007 Toyota Camry XLE

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                              • #30
                                Re: OK Probably shouldnt be asking this Zaino or Ultimate

                                there's nothing better than having a nice, shiny car that's also extremely well protected!

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