Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Another datapoint...

In my experience, a microfiber pad is many times more aggressive than anything in NXT Tech Wax. If something were to cause marring, I'd first look to the applicator or the MF toweling used for removal.

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This is an excellent point. While the OP has had excellent results in the past using the microfiber applicator, he has never used it on this particular car (nobody has ever used anything on this particular car, by the sounds of it - well, other than whatever they do at the factory) so it is quite possible that the paint on this car is much more scratch sensitive than his previous cars.

But none of that explains the NXT being difficult to remove. There is absolutely no reason at all why NXT should be hard to remove simply because a microfiber applicator was used to apply it. A thin coat is a thin coat, no matter how you get it down on the paint, and a thin coat should wipe off with virtually no effort.

Augustus4, we'd really like to have you contact Customer Care at 800-347-5700, especially now that you've retrieved the product from the trash.

[ffboy]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Oh man.. I don't know if i should say this, but i hope its an isolated case. Maybe the problem you had with the nxt is only for that particular bottle of nxt.. And I hope you give the NXT another shot, its really a good wax in my opinion/experience. Its never a good thing when these things happen, but it can be fixed.

[VFRLuke]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Not trying to stir up a pot of...well stuff, but i just registered on here after reading this so I could share my experience.

I found this thread via google. I figured maybe this happened to someone else and it looks like it did.

I'm no detailing expert by any means, but I'm not a stranger to waxing a car. With my Corvette, I use zaino. If this would have happened to my vette I would be so irritated right now.

I didn't want to use my zaino on my truck so I went and picked up a bottle of the tech wax 2.0 at my local auto parts store. I didn't clay my truck, but I'm not trying to get a show car shine here, just trying to make it look presentable and protect it. I've been using the tech wax (non 2.0) on it for some time and always had good results.

Well this time I had a very simillar thing happen as the original poster. I put it on and when it came time to get it off, it was on there like glue. It left little specks of residue all over my truck, and it really looks terrible. It's an overcast day, about 72 degrees. I'm not striving for perfection... something's wrong here.

I'm wore out for the day, but I'm guessing my next step will be to wash it with dawn and start all over...with something else.

I emailed customer support... I'm wondering if there's some bad bottle floating around out there.

Luke

[billd55]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Question:
After my first and only use of NXT, I threw away the bottle because of the application and damage caused to my brand new car. I just wanted to post this and hear what the community had to say about this experience.

I am new to this forum, and do not want to start a big fight on this issue. Although,
I think many of the answers to Augustus4's question are avoiding the real cause.

Maybe the reason for his problem is using wax in the first place. Now before everybody looses their minds, and say I'm crazy please give me a chance to explain myself.

I have been a working detailer since the mid eighties, and I do not use wax products
or sealants. I have used a product that is not well known to the industry.

I have done hundreds of cars and boats with this product, and I just do not have to deal with correction issues. I wash my customer cars with Dawn all the time, and they
never have the issues I see in many of the pre correction pics I see on forums.

It is just my opinion, but if you use wax then this is the price you have to pay.
It is just the nature of the product plain and simple.If you want the shine, and beading
that wax offers, then swirl marks and correction are things you will have to deal with.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Question:
After my first and only use of NXT, I threw away the bottle because of the application and damage caused to my brand new car. I just wanted to post this and hear what the community had to say about this experience.

I am new to this forum, and do not want to start a big fight on this issue. Although,
I think many of the answers to Augustus4's question are avoiding the real cause.

Maybe the reason for his problem is using wax in the first place. Now before everybody looses their minds, and say I'm crazy please give me a chance to explain myself.

I have been a working detailer since the mid eighties, and I do not use wax products
or sealants. I have used a product that is not well known to the industry.

I have done hundreds of cars and boats with this product, and I just do not have to deal with correction issues. I wash my customer cars with Dawn all the time, and they
never have the issues I see in many of the pre correction pics I see on forums.

It is just my opinion, but if you use wax then this is the price you have to pay.
It is just the nature of the product plain and simple.If you want the shine, and beading
that wax offers, then swirl marks and correction are things you will have to deal with.

While your theory is interesting, it doesn't quite make sense. Meguiar's sells MILLIONS of bottles of wax and sealants every year, with WELL over 90% of customers being nothing but satisfied.

There are always exceptions, but the vast majority enjoy their products without issue. Your theory suggests that it should be the opposite if the act of waxing induced swirls or whatever other problems you are implying it does.

For every 1 bad experience, this forum can point to hundreds of positive experiences involving Meguiar's waxes and sealants that suffered no ill effects.

I have a stack of trophies and a hard drive full of digital images of flawless cars that were all finished in Meguiar's wax - and I doubt I am alone.

But as Mike Phillips says, "Find something you like and use it often." If you found a mystery product/process that works for you - great! - but millions of people around the world use wax on their cars (Meguiar's or other brands) with infrequent problems.

[Tuck91]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Not trying to stir up a pot of...well stuff, but i just registered on here after reading this so I could share my experience.

I found this thread via google. I figured maybe this happened to someone else and it looks like it did.

I'm no detailing expert by any means, but I'm not a stranger to waxing a car. With my Corvette, I use zaino. If this would have happened to my vette I would be so irritated right now.

I didn't want to use my zaino on my truck so I went and picked up a bottle of the tech wax 2.0 at my local auto parts store. I didn't clay my truck, but I'm not trying to get a show car shine here, just trying to make it look presentable and protect it. I've been using the tech wax (non 2.0) on it for some time and always had good results.

Well this time I had a very simillar thing happen as the original poster. I put it on and when it came time to get it off, it was on there like glue. It left little specks of residue all over my truck, and it really looks terrible. It's an overcast day, about 72 degrees. I'm not striving for perfection... something's wrong here.

I'm wore out for the day, but I'm guessing my next step will be to wash it with dawn and start all over...with something else.

I emailed customer support... I'm wondering if there's some bad bottle floating around out there.

Luke

Yes, something is wrong.

The paint is probably very contaminated & feels like sand paper.

A sealant like NXT with no cleaning ability has no effect on removing the contamination. Plus its going to be a major PITA to remove.

You need to clay the surface.

I wouldnt be suprised if the Tech wax lasts only until after the first rain shower or wash.

[Tuck91]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Question:
After my first and only use of NXT, I threw away the bottle because of the application and damage caused to my brand new car. I just wanted to post this and hear what the community had to say about this experience.

I am new to this forum, and do not want to start a big fight on this issue. Although,
I think many of the answers to Augustus4's question are avoiding the real cause.

Maybe the reason for his problem is using wax in the first place. Now before everybody looses their minds, and say I'm crazy please give me a chance to explain myself.

I have been a working detailer since the mid eighties, and I do not use wax products
or sealants. I have used a product that is not well known to the industry.

I have done hundreds of cars and boats with this product, and I just do not have to deal with correction issues. I wash my customer cars with Dawn all the time, and they
never have the issues I see in many of the pre correction pics I see on forums.

It is just my opinion, but if you use wax then this is the price you have to pay.
It is just the nature of the product plain and simple.If you want the shine, and beading
that wax offers, then swirl marks and correction are things you will have to deal with.

What damage did any wax or sealant do to your paint?

I am suprised you are still in business after all these years of washing your customer's cars with Dawn as it dries out the vinyl/rubber.

Badly after repeated use.

Not trying to stir the pot either and I am always open to new things but someone with two posts who just joined the forum and is trying to push some secret product makes you wonder?????

[ffboy]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

oh well.. NXT2.0 has always been user friendly, the paste may be a bit more difficult to use, but same nice results for me. Won't say anything else..

[billd55]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

When did I say wax hurts the paint?

[Hemin8r]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

As mentioned many times here a thin coat of wax is the way to go and when applied there is no need to apply with any pressure since there is no correction being done at this point. If it was removed with difficulty I can only guess it was applied too thick and let to dry for too long. As mentioned earlier adding pressure to remove the wax may have caused some marring on the BMW paint. The only issue I could see NXT 2.0 having is leaving blotchy spots (which may have to do with the temperature/humidity, removing too soon etc...). Did you take any pictures the marring you say was caused by the NXT 2.0? This is definitely interesting.
This was a very new BMW 1 series I worked on a couple of years back using NXT 2.0 on a rather hot Santa Monica day with no issues. http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27006

[THE BIG BUFFER]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Use it almost everyday (both hand and machine applied)and I have never had a problem.

[ffboy]

Re: Horrible NXT 2.0 Experience

Well, just keep using whatever you were using before.. Simple as that. I tried both paste and liquid versions, i alway get great results.