Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

[RogueGypsy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

After getting all the muck off, I had to try a test spot to see what I could do to the paint. It looks like it will come out alright. But this is all about the learning curve here.

After the wash I used a clay bar. Of course I got half way down the passenger side and dropped it in the gravel, DOH!

Ok, so much of the bar. Decided to just do a test spot to see what would work. Pulled out the 7336sp and started with #9, took care of the oxidation, but still had a mess of swirls and scratches. Stepped it up to #2 and that was much better. Then on to a second pass with #2, then #7, #26 and a wipe with #34.

Here is what I started with:


SWIRLS

and Oxidation


Here's how it ended up:


Notice my reflection to the right of the flash, it was almost dark out.

Here's a side by side


What do you think? I'm I getting the hang of it? This is my first shot with the PC.

Thanks for lookin'


Brock

[RogueGypsy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Yes Alex, we have a winner! Finished the first wash on the Bronco tonight.

Before




After wash



There was actually some paint under that old growth moss. I see potential.

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Yeah, the quoted parts are from Meguiars.com

I look forward to seeing the pictures!

[RogueGypsy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Thanks for the descriptions, did you find those on the Meguiar's.com site??

I'll post pics of the 'Stallion' in the BreakRoom tomorrow.

**someone needs to add Mequiar's to the spell checker, it keep underlining it like it's misspelled**


That's all for now, the forum keeps timing out on me and deleting my reply, gotta hurry.......................


Brock

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

M07 is a pure polish. It is intended to add oils to the paint to make it look wetter and deeper. No cleaners, no protectants.

Show Car Glaze outshines all other hand applied polishes, glazes, waxes and sealants. Restores a dazzling, deep, wet shine. Show Car Glaze does not dry white and is safe and effective on all paint finishes.

M02 is a cleaner.

Fine-Cut Cleaner is a mildly abrasive cleaner that removes fine surface defects including light oxidation, stains, scratches, swirls and fresh water spots. Diminishing Abrasives™ cut quickly, then reduce to a polishing rouge, while Buffered Abrasive™ action lubricates the finish to prevent scratching.

M09 is a light cleaner/polish.

Swirl Remover 2.0 is a deep gloss cleaner/polish. It removes fine scratches and swirl marks, while providing a dark, dramatic shine. Formulated to reduce splatter and make application and wipe-down easier.

M84 is an aggressive compound. Rotary only.

Compound Power Cleaner contains aggressive abrasives to boost cleaning power and efficiency. Specially formulated for fast, safe cleaning. Quickly removes Meguiar’s® Unigrit® 1200 grit sanding marks. Diminishing Abrasives™ cut quickly, then reduce to a polishing rouge, while Buffered Abrasive™ action lubricates the finish to prevent scouring.

M34 is a QD-type product. I'd guess this is a body shop safe product?

Final Inspection® is a fast, mist-on, wipe-off detailer for a “Show Car Shine.” Use to evaluate paint repairs, or to look for surface defects. Ideal for use before customer delivery.

As for the plastic cleaners/detailers:
FAQ: What's the difference between Meguiar's Clear Plastic Products

Meguiar's Clear Plastic Products
Here is the complete collection of products Meguiar's offers for working with clear plastics both by hand and machine.


Mirror Glaze Clear Plastic Polish



The finishing touch for maximum clarity and brilliance. Meguiar’s Plastic Polish provides the second step in our two-step restoration process for clear plastics. One easy application protects surfaces previously cleaned with our M-1708 Plastic Cleaner. You will reveal the materials natural brilliance, while leaving behind an anti-static coating that helps repel damaging dust and dirt.




Mirror Glaze Clear Plastic Cleaner



Safely removes hairline scratches, dirt and grime. Clear plastic that has lost its clarity due to significant contamination and fine scratches should be treated using our two-step process. Meguiar’s non-abrasive, alcohol-free Plastic Cleaner aggressively cleans and removes scratches without harming the surface. Follow up with our M-1008 Plastic Polish for a perfect finish.




Mirror Glaze Clear Plastic Detailer



A single-step solution that keeps clear plastic surfaces pristine. Regain the original crystalline clarity of plastic in need of restoration, using this convenient all-in-one product specially formulated by Meguiar’s. Simply spray it on and wipe it dry. You will safely remove surface contamination and achieve dramatic results on everything from window panels and instrument lenses to eyeglasses, CD's and picture frames.




PlastX



This easy to use, rich gel formula quickly restores optical clarity to both rigid and flexible plastics. Cutting-edge advancements in Meguiar's exclusive Microscopic Diminishing Abrasive Technology, (MDAT), removes light oxidation, chemical degradation, surface contamination, stains and light surface scratches with ease. In addition, because our microscopic diminishing abrasives breakdown as you use them, PlastX Clear Plastic Cleaner & Polish is safe on plastic rear windows on convertible tops, aircraft windows, motorcycle fairings, face shields, headlights and taillights, instrument panels, all clear plastic boat surfaces and aquariums. Meguiar's PlastX also contains highly water-resistant polymers. These specialized hi-tech polymers provide long lasting durable protection to keep your clear plastics clear and beautiful longer. PlastX is non-toxic and does not contain any harsh solvents.



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Meguiar's teaches the philosophy of using the least aggressive product to get the job done. We also teach that surfaces, in this case clear plastic, need to be maintained. Maintaining a surface is an ongoing process, not a one time procedure. Thus in order of aggressiveness...

M10 Plastic Polish - Completely non-aggressive. This is a pure polish that is formulated to restore optical clarity and maintain clear plastic surfaces. M10 Plastic Polish should be used on plastic surfaces in excellent shape to maintain them, and/or after a neglected plastic surface has been pre-cleaned using a dedicated plastic cleaner such as M17 Plastic Cleaner, or PlastX. M10 Plastic polish leaves behind an anti-static surface.


M17 Plastic Cleaner - M17 is a light cleaning polish for clear plastics, it is non-abrasive and and perfect for removing stains, light oxidation and other contaminants off the surface. It can remove very light scratches out of soft plastics when worked thoroughly but gently against the surface. After cleaning with PlastX, for maximum optical clarity and to leave an anti-static finish, apply M10 Plastic Polish.


PlastX - PlastX is a unique plastic cleaner in that it contains a special microscopic diminishing abrasive that enables it to actually remove below surface scratches by removing small particles of plastic surrounding the scratches. After cleaning with PlastX, for maximum optical clarity and to leave an anti-static finish, apply M10 Plastic Polish.

Besides your choice of product, your choice of applicator material can also effect the aggressiveness or gentleness of a product. Meguiar's Hi-Tech Foam Wax applicators are a good choice for gentle cleaning and polishing. For more aggressive cleaning and polishing, try using a material with a nap such as 100% cotton toweling, or our Even Coat Applicators made out of microfiber.

Because clear plastic surfaces tend to be scratch-sensitive, remember that not only is your choice of product and applicator material important, but just as important is the quality and type of removal material, in other words, your wipe-off clothes or towels. For clear plastic surfaces, always use a premium quality microfiber polishing cloth, or a clean, soft 100% cotton terry cloth towel. Inspect your wiping-cloth before using to insure it is clean and free from contaminants and anything that cold instill a scratch into the plastic surface.

When working on plastic surfaces for the first time, and whenever you use a product for the first time, it's always a good idea to test the product, your applicator material and your application process, (In this case your hand and your skill level), in an inconspicuous area. If you cannot make a small area look good with your product, applicator and process, you will not be able to make the entire surface look good, so test first to be an the safe side.

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

I goofed up the other thread, not even thinking what it was. I posted up a bunch of information. I will copy it over to here.

[Murr1525]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

#7 Show Car Glaze

#2 Fine Cut Cleaner

#9 Swirl Remover 2.0

#84 Compound Power Cleaner

#34 Final inspection

I know I need to get a clay bar, I'd like to find some #21 locally. Other than that I have no idea what I need. Thus I was looking for a comprehensive list of 'every' product definition/use/application, so I can create a list and git 'er done.

I've been looking and I'm not finding much on the clear plastic restorers either. Specifically #10 and #17.


#7 is a pure polish. No cleaning ability, other than the material you are applying with. So it just adds polishing oils to the paint.

#2 is a mild cleaner, and the newer versions can be used by PC. However, #80 ( a mild cleaner/polish) would likely be a better choice.

#9 and #82 are very mild cleaner polishes. So a very mild cleaning ability, but based on the pics, I imagine you at least need #80 to start with. So these would be kind of optional after.

#84 is for rotary use, I think you only have a PC at the moment? Obviously it is a stronger cleaner.

#34 can be a clay lube or used for removing light dust, etc.

Yeah, there isnt a lot on the plastic products. You would likely find more on PlastX, whic his a good product.

[Murr1525]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle
Step 1 Wash
Step 2 Clean
Step 3 Polish
Step 4 Protect
Step 5 Maintain

Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

What it Means to Remove a Scratch

How To Remove Swirls By Hand

How to remove a defect by hand with ScratchX

Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

1986 Ford Bronco II - Extreme Makeover

Each one, teach one... Ferrari Fiorano 355 F1 Spider

#83 will be the stongest product to use by PC, but keep in mind it is still very mild compared to the old rubbing compounds. So you should be able to get a lot of practice in with #80 and #83, and really it might not run out bad on the parts where there is still paint. Dont take the machine anywhere near the rust bubbles/peeling of course, dont want to get that in a pad.

[Setec Astronomy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

BTW, the title of this thread has to be one of the best ever!

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Thanks Tyler, I know it's newer '05+. I'll snap some pics tomorrow and post them. My evil alter-ego just said something about stuffing a Roush motor in the Bronco................. . I try to ignore him when I can.........


Thanks,

Brock

I'd be interested in seeing them! As for the Roush motor, the cheapest Roush crate engine runs about $11,000. Although, that would be one of the fastest Broncos around!!! Roush is coming out with a 5.3 Mod Motor, I'd absolutely LOVE to get my hands on one of those!!! They haven't released any specs on it, but I can almost guarantee that thing would make a Mustang MOVE!

[RogueGypsy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Thanks Tyler, I know it's newer '05+. I'll snap some pics tomorrow and post them. My evil alter-ego just said something about stuffing a Roush motor in the Bronco................. . I try to ignore him when I can.........


Thanks,

Brock

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

If it is SS paint, any oxidation will be the color of the paint. Oxidation is essentially dead paint, and in this case it is red. So when you are cleaning and removing the dead paint, it should be red if it is SS, which is what it looks like. If you are unsure, you can even use the mildest cleaner available, Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner. It won't remove as many swirls as other cleaners, but on SS paint, I never notice them anyways when I'm all done. It will clean the paint though, gently.

As for the "Stallion," there are only two Mustangs ever named that from the factory/tuner. One is the 70's Stallions, and the other is the 2007? Chip Foose Stallion. There was a Mustang Super Stallion, but I don't believe that was ever actually produced, it was just a show car. From the sounds of it, he or whoever had the car before him added that. As for the Roush motor, is it from a newer Roush Mustang, or is it one of their crate engines? If it is a crate engine, that engine is (was) probably worth at least twice what the car is. The only way for me to tell for sure would be to see a picture of the car and the engine.

[RogueGypsy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

You may get it cleaner faster using a cleaner. M07 is a pure polish. It has no cleaners/diminishing abrasives in it at all. Try using something like M80 or M09 for faster cleaning results. After using a cleaner, I would definitely use M07, it will make that red glow!

It is looking better though, keep up the good work!!!

I hear you Tyler, I'm just a little afraid to hit it too hard after #7 and #26 applicators came back red. I don't know if oxidation will appear the same as paint color or if I have very soft single stage paint. This is the first paint I've touched that comes off like that.

On a side note, you seem to be the resident 'Stang expert. I have a friend that wants to sell his 'Stallion' (painted in gold on the hood). I understand it's a Roush motor. I've driven it and it is wicked fast. Ugly paint, not in bad shape, just ugly. It's a medium green with Gold stripes. It's a convertible/all leather and I have a soft spot for a nice drop-top. Do you know anything about the 'Stallion'?


Brock

[Setec Astronomy]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

Careful with that pressure washer, if you've already got paint flaking off down to the primer...too close with the PW and you might have a gray truck

[roushstage2]

Re: Things you find in a field for $1500 Alex

You may get it cleaner faster using a cleaner. M07 is a pure polish. It has no cleaners/diminishing abrasives in it at all. Try using something like M80 or M09 for faster cleaning results. After using a cleaner, I would definitely use M07, it will make that red glow!

It is looking better though, keep up the good work!!!