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  • #16
    Another problem that has contributed to high energy prices, is the lack of refining facilities.

    In the past few years, we've seen a lot of mergers in the oil business, and that led to some refineries being shut down in order to improve their operating capital. But it has led to some extra high prices for all of us.
    r. b.

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    • #17
      The thing that gets me the most are the people that drive the Ford Excursion to work everyday, by themselves, doing 80+ on the highway.

      Here is my philosophy, for what it's worth. I will allways have a daily driver for work that is 1) cheap and 2) gets good gas milage. My current is a Chevy Cavlier that gets 26 MPG on a bad day, over 32 MPG on the highway. I know that it is not the best made, most comfortable, or smoothest ride out there.....but all it has to do is get me to work and back (a total of about 5 hours a week).

      I have been checking out the Toyota Tacoma's and I am getting the new car bug.....but even if I decide to get one, I will still drive the Cavalier just to save on the gas and wear and tear on the more expensive car (the Cav. is almost paid off).

      G-

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      • #18
        Originally posted by g15389
        The thing that gets me the most are the people that drive the Ford Excursion to work everyday, by themselves, doing 80+ on the highway.

        Here is my philosophy, for what it's worth. I will allways have a daily driver for work that is 1) cheap and 2) gets good gas milage. My current is a Chevy Cavlier that gets 26 MPG on a bad day, over 32 MPG on the highway. I know that it is not the best made, most comfortable, or smoothest ride out there.....but all it has to do is get me to work and back (a total of about 5 hours a week).

        I have been checking out the Toyota Tacoma's and I am getting the new car bug.....but even if I decide to get one, I will still drive the Cavalier just to save on the gas and wear and tear on the more expensive car (the Cav. is almost paid off).

        G-
        I agree with you on that one.

        I have an older model Toyota that gets 35 to 40 on the highway, that I drove to work.

        I'm in between jobs at the moment, and the car needs repair, but I refuse to sell it due to high gas prices.
        r. b.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rusty Bumper
          I agree with you on that one.

          I have an older model Toyota that gets 35 to 40 on the highway, that I drove to work.

          I'm in between jobs at the moment, and the car needs repair, but I refuse to sell it due to high gas prices.
          RB-

          35-40 MPG...I wouldn't sell it either. Repairs here and there on a paid for car are better then a car payment

          Best of luck on the job hunting....

          G-

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          • #20
            Originally posted by g15389
            RB-

            35-40 MPG...I wouldn't sell it either. Repairs here and there on a paid for car are better then a car payment

            Best of luck on the job hunting....

            G-
            Thanks,

            It needs some paint on the top, but the rest of it looks pretty good.

            I could have sold it many times here of late.
            r. b.

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            • #21
              SCION FOR THE WIN! #1 ON THE CHARTS! (probably because they make 3 cars and two of them have 1.6L engines)

              I got a tC...it's got a pretty powerful 2.4L VVT-i 4cyl in it that gets about 28MPG
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              • #22
                Hi,

                Looking at it from another angle, if they decide to try and reduce emissions then the US government might just start doing what the UK lot ARE doing that is TAX us of the road or into cars that give "here to the moon" MPG and do 0-60 in a fortnight.

                Currently here in the UK 75% of EVERY single gallon of fuel is TAX

                Bryan

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                • #23
                  Interesting article I found here...

                  Experimental Hybrid Cars Get Up To 250 Mpg
                  r. b.

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                  • #24
                    I agree. NO new refinery has been built in the last 30 years. Plus all the bouitqe fuels for various cities that can not be used elsewhere coupled with 3 grades of gas for each area. It's nuts. Also factor in the eco people who say NO drilling in the Gulf of Mexico or the Pacific coast.
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                    • #25
                      I read the article already rusty bumper, but did you see that part wherer they are going to sell those 250mpg hybrids for 12k? or did i read it wrong?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LT22
                        I read the article already rusty bumper, but did you see that part wherer they are going to sell those 250mpg hybrids for 12k? or did i read it wrong?
                        Not sure, but I think they are going to tack on $12,000 per car.

                        The gas savings would help offset that.
                        r. b.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by JeffM
                          We are getting almost the same mpg we did 20 years ago, but the vehicles cost 25k more.

                          Where is the technology?
                          Are you kidding??

                          First of all, cars get better economy while also making much more power. Second of all, the average new car is only about $25k. So were cars in 1985 free?

                          Originally posted by JeffM
                          Its easy to see how the oil companies are making decisions in the white house, making/allowing vehicle manufacturers producing gas guzzlers.
                          Man, they didn't do a very good job keeping that secret. All the cars you buy are secretly designed by oil companies in the White House's drawing room. Now you know...

                          I think it's funny how the price of something spikes a bit (what, should it get cheaper every year until they pay you to take it?) and suddenly everyone knows exactly where the problem lies and what we should have done all along. For those of you who think $2.75 for a gallon of gas will bring the civilized world to its knees, how many car purchases have you made in the past where fuel economy was by far the overriding factor?
                          Last edited by Aurora40; Aug 14, 2005, 07:01 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Blr123
                            Currently here in the UK 75% of EVERY single gallon of fuel is TAX
                            Man, if they'd only do that in the States! Then we'd all be driving 1,000hp hybrid-diesel fuel cell mobile homes that get 5,000 miles per gallon, and cost $4 after tax credits!
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                            • #29
                              Still boils down to the love of the gas guzzling vehicles (demand) has led to the price for gas rising at an out of control rate. If we all took the time to think of the generations that come after us and what we're leaving for them we as a country could change things. In the meantime, I'll just keep driving my fuel sippers and thinking of my kids and grandkids to be......
                              Quadruple Honda Owner
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                              • #30
                                Aurora40,

                                While you may not agree with what some people have posted on this thread, I think you are being a little overly negative.

                                I think the point to this thread is that as the prices continue to rise, people have to start budgeting for the increase. For example, a few years ago I was commuting from work to school everyday and my gas bill was around $150 a month (when gas was ~$1.50). Now that same drive would cost me $225 (assuming a moderate price of $2.25 a gallon).

                                $75 a month is:

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                                NXT Glass Cleaner
                                NXT Speed Detailer
                                Hot Shine
                                Scratch-X
                                Carpet Cleaner
                                NXT Tech Protectant
                                (Plus shipping and few dollar left over)

                                You have a nice selection of cars (I particularly like your Vette) so I have no doubt that your cars are a priority for you, and no matter how high gas prices get you will still be cruising.

                                There are some out there though that have started to shift their driving habits (and their choice of cars) to accomodate the economic factors.

                                Just some food for thought......let's try to keep the thread open to opposing ideas

                                G-

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