NXT durability doubts

[Nitro]

Hi all, yesterday I just applied my 3rd layer of NXT tech wax. 2 layers before over the past 2 weeks and just today it rained cats and dogs. My car was left in the open under the rain for about 1 hour. And to my disappointed when I went home and wanted to wash the car, all the wax was gone. My whole car especially the bonnet felt so squeaky when I ran my fingers across it. I even had difficulty removing the water from the car with my cloth as there is no more smooth feeling on the paintwork.

I thought that the NXT was supposed to last much longer than this. Never expected that all it took was a heavy shower and there goes the NXT wax. Could there be something wrong with my application? I normally use the applicator to wax and then remove it after 15-30mins. Pls advice.

[Vandelete]

Did you prep the surface before the wax job? i mean did you cleaned it well or just a washing time? my advise is too clay it at least or a cleaner wax job sow you have a good base coat to start on.. it won`t last long if you didn`t prep it good enough.. maybe you should try this..

[Nitro]

Originally posted by Vandelete
Did you prep the surface before the wax job? i mean did you cleaned it well or just a washing time? my advise is too clay it at least or a cleaner wax job sow you have a good base coat to start on.. it won`t last long if you didn`t prep it good enough.. maybe you should try this..

I already did that. I used the Cleaner Wax to prepare the surface before applying the NXT but still...hmmm..

[Boss_429]

Is the rain you get very "acidic"?

Was your vehicle exposed to the heavy rain right after applying the NXT?

[Nitro]

Originally posted by Boss_429
Is the rain you get very "acidic"?

Was your vehicle exposed to the heavy rain right after applying the NXT?

Nope, it was applied yesterday morning which is about approx 36 hours ago. Over here at my place, its the rainy season. Gonna be tough if I have to wax my car every now and then. Wat happened to the NXT????

Yes, I believe the rain here might be quite acidic. Thats just my wild guess. I cant really guage that though. But even how acidic the rain is, I believe the NXT should be able to do better than that. Sigh...

[Tim Lingor]

Hey,

Your experience is not the norm. As long as you kept water off the surface for a good 12 hours, there should be no problem at all!

Here is my suggestion. Use Meguiar's #9 to clean the finish. Then use 2 coats of NXT. Be sure to avoid water getting on the surface, waiting overnight if possible. Let's see if this helps!

Please keep us posted!

Tim

[Nitro]

Originally posted by 2hotford
Hey,

Your experience is not the norm. As long as you kept water off the surface for a good 12 hours, there should be no problem at all!

Here is my suggestion. Use Meguiar's #9 to clean the finish. Then use 2 coats of NXT. Be sure to avoid water getting on the surface, waiting overnight if possible. Let's see if this helps!

Please keep us posted!

Tim

Thanks for your advice. I 've used the cleaner wax just now to clean to paintwork and applied a layer of NXT over it. Now waiting for it to cure completely. Tomorrow I will apply another coating and will keep you guys posted on whether there's an improvement. Its NXT vs Heavy Rain time!

Btw, what is product #9? Cant seem to find it. Tks.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: NXT durability doubts

Originally posted by Nitro
Hi all, yesterday I just applied my 3rd layer of NXT tech wax. 2 layers before over the past 2 weeks and just today it rained cats and dogs. My car was left in the open under the rain for about 1 hour. And to my disappointed when I went home and wanted to wash the car, all the wax was gone. My whole car especially the bonnet felt so squeaky when I ran my fingers across it. I even had difficulty removing the water from the car with my cloth as there is no more smooth feeling on the paintwork.

I thought that the NXT was supposed to last much longer than this. Never expected that all it took was a heavy shower and there goes the NXT wax. Could there be something wrong with my application? I normally use the applicator to wax and then remove it after 15-30mins. Pls advice.

Hi Nitro,

I'm not sure what could explain this. One of our forum members applied two coats of NXT Tech Wax to his black Corvette before we did a "Before & After, thus making it difficult to take the before pictures because the black finish looked so good!

In order to remove the wax so we could get the before pictures, I asked the owner (Lt1Corvette), to take the car home and wash it with a strong soap in an effort to remove the wax.

The next weekend he brought the car back and it still looked awesome! We ended up scrubbing the the finish down with some strong chemicals in order to remove the wax so that we could take pictures of what the finish looked like before we polished and waxed the car.

Another thing that's interesting is the number of posts I read here and on other forums about how difficult NXT Tech Wax is to wash out of foam applicator pads even using detergent soap.

Mike

[Larry A]

On my car I put on 1 coat of Color X and 1 coat of NXT, it rained for 4 days and at the end of the 4 days the paint still beaded like crazy.

[Mike Phillips]

I posted this some time ago on another forum but thought I would share it here,

As far as how long a wax will last goes, the below pictured Corvette looked pretty bad the first time I saw it.

Before



Before we did the makeover on Joe's Corvette, Joe purchased some NXT Tech Wax and applied two coats with no prep work. A week later, he came by and showed me his results, I almost pulled my hair out! I needed some more before pictures that showed his Corvette looking like it did in the above before picture to clearly document just how horrible the paint really was. To my dismay, with two coats of Tech Wax and no prep work, it now looked pretty good.

I asked Joe to wash/scrub the Corvette down 2-3 times with a detergent dish soap before he brought it back for its makeover to try and remove the Tech Wax so that we could get a few more before photos. He told me that when his dad saw what he was doing, (trying to make the paint look horrible again), he thought his son was nuts! To may dismay, even after a thorough Dawn wash, the finish still looked great.

Here's Joe's Corvette with two coats of Tech Wax after being washed with Dawn. This photo has been cropped out of the original, and resized to 600 pixels wide.

Results after washing with a strong detergent dishsoap


In order to remove the wax, I scrubbed the hood down 4-6 times using a solvent, followed by a thorough wiping with Meguiar's All Purpose Cleaner, (which can be used for de-waxing), followed by 2-3 aggressive applications of glass cleaner, (It contains alcohol).

When we were all done, we backed the Corvette out into the sun, and even though it still looked pretty good, we were able to get enough of the Tech Wax off to make the paint look like it did in the original before shot.


Here's Joe's Corvette after chemically scrubbing the finish with three different chemicals to remove what a detergent dish soap wouldn't remove.

(The below two photos are RAW photos. They have been cropped out of the original, but they have not been resized or altered in any way. These were taken with my Sony FD97 2.1 mega pixel camera because it's better at capturing cobweb-effect.

After chemically stripping the Tech Wax





Some people post that NXT Tech wax doesn't last, but in this situation, we couldn't hardly get it off!

Here's before,



Here's the results after Joe, (a 17 year old young man), polished out the finish using #80 Speed Glaze with the PC, and then applied 2 thin coats of NXT Tech Wax.



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Nitro,

I don't readily have an answer to explain what your seeing. The engineered synthetic polymers are water and detergent resistant. R&D has assured me that NXT Tech Wax is Meguiar's best protecting formula.

Mike

[George Wax]

Mike, interesting post...I can tell you on my Red Cobra..#26 Paste Wax seem's to hold up better than NXT Wax.. with no surface prep whatsoever. I can also tell you that #26 paste wax also seem's to make my red color glow and very deep. Where NXT seems to add a lot of reflectivity. At this point Mike #26 seem's to work better on my Cobra than NXT with increased durability especially to rain water. Mike this is just my observation and opinion.

[travisdecpn]

I'd say that if you are really have a problem with longevity you may try adding a layer of #16.

[Nitro]

Re: Re: NXT durability doubts

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Hi Nitro,

I'm not sure what could explain this. One of our forum members applied two coats of NXT Tech Wax to his black Corvette before we did a "Before & After, thus making it difficult to take the before pictures because the black finish looked so good!

In order to remove the wax so we could get the before pictures, I asked the owner (Lt1Corvette), to take the car home and wash it with a strong soap in an effort to remove the wax.

The next weekend he brought the car back and it still looked awesome! We ended up scrubbing the the finish down with some strong chemicals in order to remove the wax so that we could take pictures of what the finish looked like before we polished and waxed the car.

Another thing that's interesting is the number of posts I read here and on other forums about how difficult NXT Tech Wax is to wash out of foam applicator pads even using detergent soap.

Mike

Hi Mike,

Yes I do agree that it is difficult to wash out the NXT on the applicator pads. This is something I myself dont understand. I meant the car really squeaked, The car was still shiny but not smooth anymore, no kidding. But I have to say that it was a very heavy shower.

Well, guess I'll do prob a 3-4 layer coating day by day and see how it goes. Might be the rain over here is acidic. Does this affect the durability? Tropical climate here. No snow but showers with thunder quite often.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: Re: Re: NXT durability doubts

Originally posted by Nitro
Might be the rain over here is acidic. Does this affect the durability? Tropical climate here. No snow but showers with thunder quite often.

I don't know about the composition of your rain, but I'll ask someone that does. Interesting.

Mike

[orange monkeyee]

I've only used NXT wax and Gold Class liquid wax and both have destinct uses in my opinion. Gold Class wax makes Silver metallic paintjobs look amazing, the paint becomes a radiant glowing surface of liquid reflections whereas the NXT wax on the same surface gives it a wet, clean look.