NXT durability doubts

[Lt1Corvette]

As Mke explained,
Me of all people can attest to the lasting properties of Nxt. I gave the car a good wash with a high Dawn to water mix Yes, that still bugs me because it went against everything I believe in. As the pictures show, there was still a lot of wax on the car after that.
I too have been experiencing some heavy rain the last few weeks and haven't had the problem with my car.

[Nitro]

Originally posted by Lt1Corvette
As Mke explained,
Me of all people can attest to the lasting properties of Nxt. I gave the car a good wash with a high Dawn to water mix Yes, that still bugs me because it went against everything I believe in. As the pictures show, there was still a lot of wax on the car after that.
I too have been experiencing some heavy rain the last few weeks and haven't had the problem with my car.

Did you apply multiple coats?

[sky8811]

Originally posted by Nitro

Hi all, yesterday I just applied my 3rd layer of NXT tech wax. 2 layers before over the past 2 weeks and just today it rained cats and dogs. My car was left in the open under the rain for about 1 hour. And to my disappointed when I went home and wanted to wash the car, all the wax was gone. My whole car especially the bonnet felt so squeaky when I ran my fingers across it. I even had difficulty removing the water from the car with my cloth as there is no more smooth feeling on the paintwork.

I thought that the NXT was supposed to last much longer than this. Never expected that all it took was a heavy shower and there goes the NXT wax. Could there be something wrong with my application? I normally use the applicator to wax and then remove it after 15-30mins. Pls advice.
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Hi Nitro,

I'm from Singapore too...When you run your finger across the surface, is it before or after you wash your car after the rain?

My very experience with NXT:- after heavy rain, our car surface will not beaded water. Usually I'll wash the car with clean water, and the NXT effect will come back...
IMHO after heavy rain here, the car surface is cover with a layer of dirt which will make NXT lose it effect.

Anyway, I wash my car every weekend with NXT wash and so my car always bead water with just one layer of NXT wax.

(By the way, thanks to Tim, I love the finishing of using #80 before applying NXT wax, The result is awsome...I'm still trying to get a photo so that i can show all of you what Tim has tought me)

And guys, there is not #16 paste wax in Singapore which I look forward that the distributor will bring in...and #9 is not available off the shalf, need to order direct from the distrubitor.

IMHO the best way to get ride of the NXT wax in the applicator is by using NXT wash liquid. It will surely get everything out of your applicator...

Hope the above help, and if need more information, can SMS me at 97654125.

sky8811

[Carrera]

I can only add that TECH WAX is the most durable wax I have used. It will last longer than Cleaner Wax, Gold Class Wax and M26

[Nitro]

Originally posted by sky8811
Originally posted by Nitro

Hi all, yesterday I just applied my 3rd layer of NXT tech wax. 2 layers before over the past 2 weeks and just today it rained cats and dogs. My car was left in the open under the rain for about 1 hour. And to my disappointed when I went home and wanted to wash the car, all the wax was gone. My whole car especially the bonnet felt so squeaky when I ran my fingers across it. I even had difficulty removing the water from the car with my cloth as there is no more smooth feeling on the paintwork.

I thought that the NXT was supposed to last much longer than this. Never expected that all it took was a heavy shower and there goes the NXT wax. Could there be something wrong with my application? I normally use the applicator to wax and then remove it after 15-30mins. Pls advice.
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Hi Nitro,

I'm from Singapore too...When you run your finger across the surface, is it before or after you wash your car after the rain?

My very experience with NXT:- after heavy rain, our car surface will not beaded water. Usually I'll wash the car with clean water, and the NXT effect will come back...
IMHO after heavy rain here, the car surface is cover with a layer of dirt which will make NXT lose it effect.

Anyway, I wash my car every weekend with NXT wash and so my car always bead water with just one layer of NXT wax.

(By the way, thanks to Tim, I love the finishing of using #80 before applying NXT wax, The result is awsome...I'm still trying to get a photo so that i can show all of you what Tim has tought me)

And guys, there is not #16 paste wax in Singapore which I look forward that the distributor will bring in...and #9 is not available off the shalf, need to order direct from the distrubitor.

IMHO the best way to get ride of the NXT wax in the applicator is by using NXT wash liquid. It will surely get everything out of your applicator...

Hope the above help, and if need more information, can SMS me at 97654125.

sky8811

Hi Sky, nice to hear you're also from the "fine" city. Can speak singlish to you at least. I actually ran my fingers across the paintwork after I used water to rinse the car. However I feel there is not much dirt after rinsing. Car become very "Siap Siap". in hokkien terms.

Whats #80 btw? Tks for your advice, any tips? Great to hear from you.

[sky8811]

Hi Nitro,

Just rinsing alone is not enough, I'll usually wash the car again with clean water (if got time with Tech wash), spray the car with Final Detail and dry with micro fiber cloth.

#80 speed glaze- a cleaner & polisher in one go. A very good product that I recently learned from Tim about the application. It make the car very wet looking because of Meguia's TCO in it. (I started with Deep Crystal System)

Another product I like is COLOR X- clean & wax the car at one go.
Usually when I do not have much time.

After applying either one of the product above, follow with Tech wax. the result will be awsome...

sky8811

[sky8811]

Hi Nitro,

I saw in your other post about advise on cleaner wax/Nxt combo...
May I ask before you do that, do you clay your car surface?

I'll clay my car at least once a month because usually after about a month or so, the car surface don't feel smooth anymore...

sky8811

[Lt1Corvette]

Originally posted by Nitro
Did you apply multiple coats?

At that point there was only one coat of Nxt. However the nxt was on top of one layer of Klasse, and two layers of p21s.
Since then though, there has only been nxt and an occasional topping of p21s, just to give a bit more protection during the rainy season.
My moms car has had soley Nxt x2 and it still has a good wax coat after a few months outside in the rain. NXt beat my old klasse Aio + sealant setup on the family cars.

[Boss_429]

Nitro & sky8811,

Yea, I'm thinking that the frequent tropical rains which might be very acidic could be playing havoc with the NXT. For sure, it could make the surface lose it's slickness because of the "nasty stuff" in the acid rain. That combined with the frequency, and the power of those tropical rains (I remember them from Nam ) could be removing some of the polymers from the coating.

Anyhow, if that's the case, I would suspect that it would also play havoc with just about any wax or sealant.

Have either of you had much success with any products giving you decent durability?

Maybe Mike and the folks at Meguiar's will come up with some ideas.

Good luck!

[HotRodGuy]

Re: Re: NXT durability doubts

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
Hi Nitro,


Another thing that's interesting is the number of posts I read here and on other forums about how difficult NXT Tech Wax is to wash out of foam applicator pads even using detergent soap.

Mike

difficult is not the proper word

[Nitro]

Originally posted by sky8811
Hi Nitro,

I saw in your other post about advise on cleaner wax/Nxt combo...
May I ask before you do that, do you clay your car surface?

I'll clay my car at least once a month because usually after about a month or so, the car surface don't feel smooth anymore...

sky8811

Hi Sky, ermm, I just bought the clay bar from autobacs. So far havent use it yet. Might try during this weekend.

[Nitro]

Originally posted by Boss_429
Nitro & sky8811,

Yea, I'm thinking that the frequent tropical rains which might be very acidic could be playing havoc with the NXT. For sure, it could make the surface lose it's slickness because of the "nasty stuff" in the acid rain. That combined with the frequency, and the power of those tropical rains (I remember them from Nam ) could be removing some of the polymers from the coating.

Anyhow, if that's the case, I would suspect that it would also play havoc with just about any wax or sealant.

Have either of you had much success with any products giving you decent durability?

Maybe Mike and the folks at Meguiar's will come up with some ideas.

Good luck!

Hi, so far all those off the shelves waxes that I've used are not very durable when it comes to the acid rain. Still searching for one ultra durable wax.

[Nitro]

Originally posted by Larry A
On my car I put on 1 coat of Color X and 1 coat of NXT, it rained for 4 days and at the end of the 4 days the paint still beaded like crazy.

Hi Larry, may i know whats the method you used for applying the ColorX? Leave to haze or just plain wiping over with a cotton cloth?

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Nitro
Hi Larry, may i know whats the method you used for applying the ColorX? Leave to haze or just plain wiping over with a cotton cloth?

ColorX, like all cleaner/waxes, needs to be worked into the finish, not merely wiped on and then wiped off. After you have worked it into the finish, you then need to let it dry to a haze. After it has dried, then you can remove it.

Mike

[oldmodman]

Here is my longevity experience with NXT.
In June I did just the hood of my 1992 Ford Explorer.
Used #94 with Makita rotary, maroon 6 inch pad at 1500rpm.
Then #83 with Porter Cable DA,8006 pad at speed 5
Then #82 with Porter Cable DA, 9006 pad at speed 3
Then three coats of NXT with DA & 9006 on speed 2, applied 48 hours apart. Removed by hand with generic micro fiber from Costco.
Since then the hood was washed every two to four weeks with tap water filtered through a resin filter and NXT soap. Rinsed with same filtered tap water and dried with Meguiars waffle weave.
After one month: water beads were still very apparent and hood was very smooth. Still had a great shine.
By September the hood was getting rough due to airborne sap particles from Sequoa in my front yard.But water still beaded and hood was still very shiny. Much shinier than most cars on my street. Even though most of them are only two to three years old.
And now at the middle of November, right after the first two decent rain storms that we have had this year. The paint is still very shiny and the water is still beading like crazy. But the hood is rough as hell. Lots of bonded contaminents. I am going to have to clay bar it before much longer. I can't stand the dirty feeling!
I think that this is long enough test. Nobody on THIS site should only be polishing and waxing their cars just once or twice a year.