Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

[rwright]

Hello all! Recently I was thinking back to my experience with this product being a very strong cleaner when used 1oz/gal. and with all the threads of how much IPA to use when wiping the polishing oils from paint. With all the different ratios of IPA being tossed around, it appeared that a 25% solution was better to avoid issues with paint. I wanted to kick up the cleaning power safely and easily without adding more IPA. My solution? In a 32oz bottle of a 25% IPA/distilled water solution, I simply added 1/2oz of D114. This gave me more working time, cuts through polishing oils, leaves no residue, is not grabby so it cuts down the risk of marring, and is a very cheap alternative to expensive paint cleaners.



I'm open to suggestions and feedback, especially if you have an idea for tweaking this little home brew!

Thanks,
Richard

[smack]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

Really? So add 1/2oz to an all ready mixed 25% IPA solution? How is that compared to just the IPA solution? Im interested to hear what others have to say on the subjuct.

[aerogt01]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

Will D114 itself in a strong dilution not remove polishing oils?

I also read somebody using Glass cleaner concentrate to clean polishing oils... Haven't heard about it since.

[andytsang]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

Interesting brew, combine IPA with RFEW lubricating ability. I am no chemist. I wonder RFEW destroy alcohol or vice visa IPA neutralize RFEW. Best leave this to Meguiars chemist. Anyhow, I recalled reading in another thread that 1/2oz RFEW per 32oz is too much.

[rwright]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

The 1/2oz to 32oz is too much if you want to preserve anything on the paint. That's the purpose of this mix, to make sure nothing is left behind.

[andytsang]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

The 1/2oz to 32oz is too much if you want to preserve anything on the paint. That's the purpose of this mix, to make sure nothing is left behind.

I see. I can't google composition of RFEW. But if it neutral or like most soap then it should not turn IPA into water.

This sound like interesting idea. I will give this a try. Thanks a lot for sharing!

[andytsang]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I also read somebody using Glass cleaner concentrate to clean polishing oils... Haven't heard about it since.

I read this thread in AG forum by Mike Phillips where it mentioned most glass cleaner is about 10% alcohol.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/31183-how-mix-ipa-inspecting-correction-results.html

[rwright]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I read this thread in AG forum by Mike Phillips where it mentioned most glass cleaner is about 10% alcohol.

I've read recommendations of a 10% solution up to a maximum 30% solution of IPA, so I can see where some would use glass cleaner. I plan to buy some test strips to check the pH level of my solution, so depending on the results I may or may not tweak it. I'm not a chemist either which is why I asked for feedback.

[ethereal45]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

As someone who holds a degree in chemistry - I'm going to say you're in the clear here. That said, that is based on nothing more than intuition -- I have very little idea what is in RFEW.

[Murr1525]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

It does sound more like a glass cleaner... could be a good glass cleaner.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I saw this pic as a tease on Facebook the other day - had no idea you were using D114 in there, or that it was mixed with a fairly standard IPA wipe down solution. Your concentration of D114 in that bottle is like putting 2 ounces in a single gallon of water, which is quite strong and could possibly be strong enough to strip wax - or at least the remnants of wax applied several weeks prior. Given the crazy slickness of D114 when used at 1 oz to 2 gallons of water (recommended dilution for rinseless washing) it's no wonder this is working so well for you as a wipe down mix. You should easily pull almost any sort of residue off the surface, leaving it totally "pure".

Crafty lad.

[smack]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

Thanks for the info Mike. Was hoping you would come along and give some insight. Thanks to rwright I have a good use for my gallon of RFEW.

[BlueZero]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

Great post Richard! I never liked doing IPA wipe downs and have been looking for something else to use to clean the paint from wax and polishing oils. Thanks Mike for the information too. I can't wait to mix up a batch and give it a try before applying some OC 2.0 on my grill this weekend.

[rwright]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I saw this pic as a tease on Facebook the other day - had no idea you were using D114 in there, or that it was mixed with a fairly standard IPA wipe down solution. Your concentration of D114 in that bottle is like putting 2 ounces in a single gallon of water, which is quite strong and could possibly be strong enough to strip wax - or at least the remnants of wax applied several weeks prior. Given the crazy slickness of D114 when used at 1 oz to 2 gallons of water (recommended dilution for rinseless washing) it's no wonder this is working so well for you as a wipe down mix. You should easily pull almost any sort of residue off the surface, leaving it totally "pure".

Crafty lad.

Thank you sir! IPA can be quite grabby sometimes and lower dilution ratios may require more than one pass to clean the surface. The addition of D114 was exactly what I was looking for in terms of slickness and the heavy mixture was cutting through polish with ease. The more I use Rinse Free Express Wash the more I love it!

Great post Richard! I never liked doing IPA wipe downs and have been looking for something else to use to clean the paint from wax and polishing oils. Thanks Mike for the information too. I can't wait to mix up a batch and give it a try before applying some OC 2.0 on my grill this weekend.

Please keep me up to date with this project!

[BlueZero]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I tried out the mix yesterday. I used 4 oz of 70% IPA and 1/2 oz of RFEW, the rest water in a 16 oz bottle. That gives me right around 15-17% IPA mix. It seemed to work good before my Opti-Coat application. It wasn't as grabby as my normal mix without the RFEW, seemed to glide over the paint better. I didn't do any testing to test if it left anything behind but it looked and felt like a clean surface to me. One positive side effect is a great smell too.

Thanks for the tip Richard!