Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

[rwright]

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I'm curious, do you think that Optimum No Rinse could be substituted in place of the D114? ONR is all I have right now.

People have used ONR but I chose D114 because it leaves the paint squeaky clean, ONR adds gloss and slickness. Chris stated that any polymers left behind by ONR would not interfere. Not wanting to take chances, I went with D114 and couldn't be happier. There is a vendor in Pittsburgh, PA that sells samples of D114 if you're not ready for a gallon. Hope this helps.

[JJH]

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I'm curious, do you think that Optimum No Rinse could be substituted in place of the D114? ONR is all I have right now.

[rwright]

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I used the mix again this week on another black car and it performed excellent. Cut through polish residue with ease and left a squeaky clean surface.

[Michael Stoops]

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I'm surprised that D114 alone at that dilution ratio is not enough to leave a bare surface.

At a dilution ratio that strong, it most likely is leaving a bare surface.

[GhOsT1321]

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I'm surprised that D114 alone at that dilution ratio is not enough to leave a bare surface.

[rwright]

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That's the purpose of this mix, to break down oils from polish residue to leave a bare surface. This is NOT a routine wash mix, QD mix, or clay bar lubricant mix.

[GhOsT1321]

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Unless the IPA is necessary to breakdown wax/oils I would just use D114 with water only and not add the IPA. The IPA forms bonds with water, while in the Rinse free express wash is Propylene Glycol which tends to capture water but in a way to retain moisture and increase working time. IPA tends to be volatile and take some water with it during evaporation.
Unless it is absolute necessary, I would not use IPA in this mix. You will likely end up with less working time than without it.

[rwright]

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Guys, just tested this against fresh motor oil on paint and it cut through without issue and left zero residue!

[BlueZero]

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I tried out the mix yesterday. I used 4 oz of 70% IPA and 1/2 oz of RFEW, the rest water in a 16 oz bottle. That gives me right around 15-17% IPA mix. It seemed to work good before my Opti-Coat application. It wasn't as grabby as my normal mix without the RFEW, seemed to glide over the paint better. I didn't do any testing to test if it left anything behind but it looked and felt like a clean surface to me. One positive side effect is a great smell too.

Thanks for the tip Richard!

[rwright]

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I saw this pic as a tease on Facebook the other day - had no idea you were using D114 in there, or that it was mixed with a fairly standard IPA wipe down solution. Your concentration of D114 in that bottle is like putting 2 ounces in a single gallon of water, which is quite strong and could possibly be strong enough to strip wax - or at least the remnants of wax applied several weeks prior. Given the crazy slickness of D114 when used at 1 oz to 2 gallons of water (recommended dilution for rinseless washing) it's no wonder this is working so well for you as a wipe down mix. You should easily pull almost any sort of residue off the surface, leaving it totally "pure".

Crafty lad.

Thank you sir! IPA can be quite grabby sometimes and lower dilution ratios may require more than one pass to clean the surface. The addition of D114 was exactly what I was looking for in terms of slickness and the heavy mixture was cutting through polish with ease. The more I use Rinse Free Express Wash the more I love it!

Great post Richard! I never liked doing IPA wipe downs and have been looking for something else to use to clean the paint from wax and polishing oils. Thanks Mike for the information too. I can't wait to mix up a batch and give it a try before applying some OC 2.0 on my grill this weekend.

Please keep me up to date with this project!

[BlueZero]

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Great post Richard! I never liked doing IPA wipe downs and have been looking for something else to use to clean the paint from wax and polishing oils. Thanks Mike for the information too. I can't wait to mix up a batch and give it a try before applying some OC 2.0 on my grill this weekend.

[smack]

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Thanks for the info Mike. Was hoping you would come along and give some insight. Thanks to rwright I have a good use for my gallon of RFEW.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Another Use For D114 - Rinse Free Express Wash

I saw this pic as a tease on Facebook the other day - had no idea you were using D114 in there, or that it was mixed with a fairly standard IPA wipe down solution. Your concentration of D114 in that bottle is like putting 2 ounces in a single gallon of water, which is quite strong and could possibly be strong enough to strip wax - or at least the remnants of wax applied several weeks prior. Given the crazy slickness of D114 when used at 1 oz to 2 gallons of water (recommended dilution for rinseless washing) it's no wonder this is working so well for you as a wipe down mix. You should easily pull almost any sort of residue off the surface, leaving it totally "pure".

Crafty lad.

[Murr1525]

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It does sound more like a glass cleaner... could be a good glass cleaner.

[ethereal45]

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As someone who holds a degree in chemistry - I'm going to say you're in the clear here. That said, that is based on nothing more than intuition -- I have very little idea what is in RFEW.