Discontinued Products Announcement

[RamAirV1]

Thanks for the info. Body Scrub did seem to be similar to MPPC, they both had that strong solvent smell. It never bothered me though. It's pollen, molds, and ragweed that bother me LOL!

Scratch X will be the only product left for removing swirls by hand. It works well when you really work it into the paint, it's just time consuming. For any large scale swirl removal, you really need to have a G-100 though. Then you can use #80, #83, etc.

RamAirV1

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally posted by Jose Torres
A1016 Clear Coat Body Scrub has also been discontinued.

Is there anything else other than the Body Scrub and the pro products being dropped?

[SR77]

#16 substitute new NXT Tech Wax Paste

Mike, so is the new NXT Paste Wax a pure LSP that contains no cleaners like #16 did so it can be layered? I know the NXT Liquid version has been said to have cleaners in it so I am wondering if the Paste version does too or if it is really a substitute for #16 as a Layerable LSP. thanks

[jfelbab]

Originally posted by SR77
Mike, so is the new NXT Paste Wax a pure LSP that contains no cleaners like #16 did so it can be layered? I know the NXT Liquid version has been said to have cleaners in it so I am wondering if the Paste version does too or if it is really a substitute for #16 as a Layerable LSP. thanks

Not answering for Mike but dropping off my assumptions to chew on here.

As I recall #16 was not layerable. I recall that its solvent base would not allow film builds. I believe #16, like NXT, had a finite number of layers that could be supported and the end result was just a more uniform coat.

Were you referring to using #16 as a topper over a sealant?

Again my understanding, (correct me if I'm wrong, Mike) is that no product made by Meguiar's is layerable in the sense that you can do film builds ad nausium. Anything more than 2 or 3 would not build additional protection or shine.

I'm assuming that changing the form factor of NXT from a liquid to a paste won't change it's characteristics.

[SR77]

jfelbab,
Thanks for the reply. Yes I was refering to a topper over #20 or another sealent. I was under the assumption that Meguiars had 2 paste waxes #26 & 16 that had no cleaners in it which meant it could be used as a final LSP over a sealent. I was just wondering if NXT Paste was going to be another product like these and take the place of #16. thanks again

[J SOLO]

Cant beleve we are going to lose #16.It is a killer wax.Well got to stockup and look hard for a good replacement.

[Inzane]

Oh well, I'm just glad I picked up a tin of #16 (recently) and some MPPC (just last spring) while I still could.

The rest of those products disappearing won't affect me much. But if I like the #16 as much as I think I will, I will certainly miss it when my tin runs out.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by benhui86
is it easier to do whole car with #80 than whole car w/ scratch X? if both were applied by hand

It might be a tad easier because the #80 has a thinner consistency, however the ScratchX is going to be more effective at removing below serious defects (by hand), than the #80 is.

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Setec Astronomy
Mike, can you give us any insight into why #16 doesn't meet the VOC requirements, but #26 does?

There are a lot of different factors and criteria used to make decisions for which products would be discontinued, not just V.O.C. regulations.

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Setec Astronomy
Is there anything else other than the Body Scrub and the pro products being dropped?

Not that I'm aware of at this time.

Mike

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally posted by Mike Phillips
There are a lot of different factors and criteria used to make decisions for which products would be discontinued, not just V.O.C. regulations.

Mike

Given my original question, that almost sounds like #26 will be reformulated to meet the VOC requirements, but that #16 will not be.

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by jvcn
How is NXT paste a substitute for #16?

It's wholly synthetic while #16 is an old style Carnauba blend. Its very "oldness" is what was so endearing about it -- from looks to application to smell.

Sounds like there will be No substitute for #16.

NXT Tech Generation Paste Wax is a substitute for #16 Professional Paste Wax in that it is a paste style wax.

While it is true they are very different formulas, they share the characteristics that are unique to paste waxes as compared to liquid waxes.

* Paste waxes tend to apply easier than liquid waxes as they offer excellent gliding characteristics.
* Liquid Waxes tend to remove a tad easier than paste waxes

Meguiar's new NXT Paste Wax is formulated using the latest chemistry available for improved protection, appearance and ease of use. #16 can still be had and one of the reasons for making this announcement was to give people that like this wax a chance to obtain some. At the same time, the new Tech Wax Paste is beginning to make its way onto store shelves, (and can be ordered online), and we think this new paste style version of our incredibly successful liquid version, will prove itself to be better in all dimensions than our #16 Professional Paste Wax.

Mike

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by Setec Astronomy
Given my original question, that almost sounds like #26 will be reformulated to meet the VOC requirements, but that #16 will not be.

That is correct.

With the recent VOC regulations coming into play January 05, we were forced to look long and hard at many formulations. With all things considered, the decision was made to discontinue a few products for some reasons. However, M-26 will stay in the line...

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by SR77
Mike, so is the new NXT Paste Wax a pure LSP that contains no cleaners like #16 did so it can be layered? I know the NXT Liquid version has been said to have cleaners in it so I am wondering if the Paste version does too or if it is really a substitute for #16 as a Layerable LSP. thanks

The new NXT Tech Wax Paste, like the NXT Tech Wax Liquid, does contain a sleight amount of specialized cleaners in it. A second application of either of these waxes will always leave more product on the finish than it removes. Meguiar's always recommends two thin coats of any of our waxes to insure uniform coverage and appearance. If a person likes, they can add a third application but after that the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

Mike

[bluemoon]

I wanted to thank Mike for letting us all know what products are being discontinued. It gives us a chance to stock up before all is gone. I was trying to decide if I wanted to stock up on #16, or just move on to something else, until I washed my car last night and noticed just how well the #20/#16 combo was holding up through this winter. And after all the sand/salt/dirt was washed off, I got a to see again of the "look" that the #20/#16 combo has. After that, my mind was made up, and I called a local distributor and had them order some in for me (they didn't have any on hand, but their warehouse did). Thanks again Mike, greatly appreciated