ugh...m205 dusting

[FinalTouchDetail]

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Ah I see. I think then that living in AZ and it being dry here that I am using a decent amount. If I don't then the product WILL dry within 30 seconds of rubbing it over the surface...

Sometimes when my product is drying too quickly on the surface I will spritz the pad with a detail spray after I put the polish on it or even do a very light spray on the surface that I'm about to polish. It helps the polish to work longer.

When using something like 105 though, it DOES work very quickly. Sometimes I'll only get 3 full passes on a section and I think "wow, it's already gone" but then I pull the DA away and it actually did a good amount of correcting. 105 is incredible with how it works.

[xantonin]

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After your pad is fully primed 3-4 small blobs of product on the pad should be enough for a section (as in a 20x20 section).

This isn't always the case though. Sometimes the weather dictates how much product is necessary. If it's humid, hot, cold, etc... it will effect how the product breaks down and sometimes you need more than other times.

Ah I see. I think then that living in AZ and it being dry here that I am using a decent amount. If I don't then the product WILL dry within 30 seconds of rubbing it over the surface...

[FinalTouchDetail]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

After your pad is fully primed 3-4 small blobs of product on the pad should be enough for a section (as in a 20x20 section).

This isn't always the case though. Sometimes the weather dictates how much product is necessary. If it's humid, hot, cold, etc... it will effect how the product breaks down and sometimes you need more than other times.

[xantonin]

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Isn't 3-4 pea sized drops not enough? How big of an area does that cover?

I've been making a circle on my pads for each section... I think I'm using too much product.

[solarys]

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In order of your questions:

No, they don't mean take the pad and wash it out, unless it's necessary to do so. Generally cleaning the pad is referring to a quick cleaning right there to get caked up product off of the pad. Sometimes just cranking the DA polisher on and letting it spin out the dried product works, but sometimes you will need to take a rag/cloth and hold it against the pad while you turn it on around speed 3-4 and work the dried polish off.

8oz of product for a single car does seem like a lot, unless you were making multiple passes. I generally use about 4 oz for an average sized car with a single pass.

Yes, sometimes you will have to work a section multiple times to get the level of correction you are looking for. Although sometimes it's also your technique that is holding you back, and not the product. Product can only do so much with improper technique.

If you are getting excessive dusting from 105 make sure that your pad isn't too dry.

Thanks!!

[FinalTouchDetail]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

In order of your questions:

No, they don't mean take the pad and wash it out, unless it's necessary to do so. Generally cleaning the pad is referring to a quick cleaning right there to get caked up product off of the pad. Sometimes just cranking the DA polisher on and letting it spin out the dried product works, but sometimes you will need to take a rag/cloth and hold it against the pad while you turn it on around speed 3-4 and work the dried polish off.

8oz of product for a single car does seem like a lot, unless you were making multiple passes. I generally use about 4 oz for an average sized car with a single pass.

Yes, sometimes you will have to work a section multiple times to get the level of correction you are looking for. Although sometimes it's also your technique that is holding you back, and not the product. Product can only do so much with improper technique.

If you are getting excessive dusting from 105 make sure that your pad isn't too dry.

[solarys]

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I too, have just used the PC 7424 and M105/CCD orange pad for the first time. It dusted too, a little. I used Pinnacle pad conditioner to prime the pad. When you say clean the pad btw uses or passes, you mean take the pad off and wash it out? Also, I used almost the whole 8oz bottle of Meguiars M105 on a 2K5 Lincoln LS. Was that way too much. Also, are there times when a section with noticeable scratches needs to be done several times?

[Ryan_Bihun89]

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Holy **** did that video drag on before the polishing started.

What do you mean with Drag on before the polishing started? Im sorry i dont understand

[never gone]

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The speed is good.

Try to prime the pad with QD or LT 1:1.

Also as the friend above stated, clean your pad frequently. That way you dont inflict new defects and the pad will always have new/clean product.

Also, yes do the X for every new section.

How many section passes are you doing?

Here is a video(Click here!) by Mike Phillips showing you some techniques, hope you learn something new, as i helped you

Hope i helped

Holy **** did that video drag on before the polishing started.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

You should be able to remove this quite easily with just a quick once over using Quik Detailer or UQD and a microfiber towel. Adding that moisture to the surface will help to kill any static charge it might have, too.

The finishing pad won't kick out as much dust as the polishing pad can partially due the properties of the different foams and partially because it usually isn't used as aggressively.

[APR Tuned]

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Thanks, Mike. I definitely noticed the dusting while working with 205, but I sucked it up and finished the car wiping off the dust where necessary. I'm thinking the dust settled on the garage floor when I went out and when I pulled into the garage when I got home I kicked it up and it stuck to the car like a magnet.

Each section was being worked about 30-45 seconds. Did 3 or 4 passes with good pressure and 1 or 2 with very light pressure. I'm not quite sure it's the pad because the finishing pad I used with the NXT 2.0 didn't dust at all. Unless I can see it because it's black.

[Michael Stoops]

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As others have said, it sounds more like the dusting was some residual material from the manufacturing of the pad, especially if you got dust almost instantly. M205 generally offers a crazy long buffing cycle with virtually no dust at all. Even so, it does sound as though you were using more product than necessary, but with M205 even that shouldn't be causing a dust issue.

But this comment is a bit odd:

I dealt with it and finished the car topping it with NXT 2.0 which, of course, turns the car into a dust magnet as always.

I went out, came back home and went out into the garage about 2 hours later and the car was COVERED in dust from m205. It was horrible. All that work I put in just have to wash the car again. Did I do anything wrong? I heard of m105 dusting but not 205.

If you get dust from a product, or even a pad, it would be evident while you were working with it, not 2 hours later and after having applied a coat of wax. Under some ambient conditions, and with a static loaded towel and/or excessive buffing with said towel, we have seen a static buildup on the surface that can attract dust. From personal experience, one of my cars has a rear spoiler made of a composite material, and when wiping off almost anything (except a mist & wipe product) I can feel the static build up under certain ambient conditions.

[RaskyR1]

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It might have been the brand new pad! I've experienced "dusting" when first using brand new Meguiar's pads. The problem disappeared on subsequent uses.

+1 on the new pad dusting.


I've also never had any dusting with M205. How long were you working each section?

[InfiniteDetail]

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Rotation speed sounds about right. I aim for about 120 RPM (twice/second)

[APR Tuned]

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This doesn't sound quite right. As I understand things, one need not use a QD to prime the pad when using either M205 or M105. All one needs to do is to prime the pad with the product itself. See Chris Dasher's article: A Look into Pad Priming. Also see: Priming a Pad.

I'm thinking I didn't prime the pad correctly. Mine did not look like that picture. The primed area was more centrally located while the outside area of the pad was relatively dry.

Oh and one more question. I market the top of the pad with a sharpie marker so I can tell if it's rotating. When performing paint correction, should the pad be rotating fast at all times? Most of the time, the black mark was rotating about once every half a second to a second. Seems slow but I wasn't sure.