ugh...m205 dusting

[APR Tuned]

Hey gang. Well yesterday I took my first shot at using a DA polisher (G110v2). Overall, the results were amazing. Huge difference between what the paint looked like and what it finished like.

Anyway, m205 was really annoying me yesterday. The very first section I did, it dusted IMMEDIATELY. Like literally after 2 seconds. This happened during the whole process. I was using 205 on a 2.0 polishing pad. Primed the pad and everything. Working in my garage out of sunlight. I dealt with it and finished the car topping it with NXT 2.0 which, of course, turns the car into a dust magnet as always.

I went out, came back home and went out into the garage about 2 hours later and the car was COVERED in dust from m205. It was horrible. All that work I put in just have to wash the car again. Did I do anything wrong? I heard of m105 dusting but not 205.

After priming the pad, I was using 3 pea-sized dots for each section. Is that not enough? Overall it was a great learning process. Can't wait to do it again. Thanks.

Greg

[Ryan_Bihun89]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

What speed were you working on?

What product did you use to prime the pad?

Was the surface cold to the touch?

Maybe 3 pea-sized dots its not a lot of product. Next time try to do the X on the pad.

[APR Tuned]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

What speed were you working on?

What product did you use to prime the pad?

Was the surface cold to the touch?

Maybe 3 pea-sized dots its not a lot of product. Next time try to do the X on the pad.

Working on speed 5. Actually just primed it with product. Rubbed it into the pad. The car was definitely in the shade for a while (garage) but it was pretty hot yesterday, and it's black. Do you do the X for each new section? I figured this would be a learning experience.

Thanks for the reply.

[InfiniteDetail]

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Were you cleaning the pad between each application? Sounds like excess product.

M205 shouldn't dust. We use it in 110+ degree weather with no dusting. I'm sure there's something in your technique that can be tweaked to eliminate the dusting.

[Ryan_Bihun89]

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Working on speed 5. Actually just primed it with product. Rubbed it into the pad. The car was definitely in the shade for a while (garage) but it was pretty hot yesterday, and it's black. Do you do the X for each new section? I figured this would be a learning experience.

Thanks for the reply.

The speed is good.

Try to prime the pad with QD or LT 1:1.

Also as the friend above stated, clean your pad frequently. That way you dont inflict new defects and the pad will always have new/clean product.

Also, yes do the X for every new section.

How many section passes are you doing?

Here is a video(Click here!) by Mike Phillips showing you some techniques, hope you learn something new, as i helped you

Hope i helped

[Lasthope05]

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^No! Do not use an x pattern after every section. That is way too much product.



It is sounding like you are not cleaning the pad frequently. Only use the X pattern amount of product once on a fresh pad. After that all you need is two or three small pea size dots. Cleaning your pad on the fly frequently will help reduce build up on the pads. I clean after every pass or two.

Also try shrinking down your working area.

[akimel]

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Try to prime the pad with QD or LT 1:1.

This doesn't sound quite right. As I understand things, one need not use a QD to prime the pad when using either M205 or M105. All one needs to do is to prime the pad with the product itself. See Chris Dasher's article: A Look into Pad Priming. Also see: Priming a Pad.

[APR Tuned]

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Thanks guys. I was cleaning the pad after every panel basically. But how do you explain the dusting on the VERY FIRST application on a brand new pad? I worked small sections. I thought I did everything right, or at least almost and still had this problem.

[DetailFreak517]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

M205 shouldn't dust. We use it in 110+ degree weather with no dusting. I'm sure there's something in your technique that can be tweaked to eliminate the dusting.

Same here. I've never had M205 dust on me.

Now M105 on the other hand....

[akimel]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

Thanks guys. I was cleaning the pad after every panel basically. But how do you explain the dusting on the VERY FIRST application on a brand new pad? I worked small sections. I thought I did everything right, or at least almost and still had this problem.

It might have been the brand new pad! I've experienced "dusting" when first using brand new Meguiar's pads. The problem disappeared on subsequent uses.

[yalerd]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

This doesn't sound quite right. As I understand things, one need not use a QD to prime the pad when using either M205 or M105. All one needs to do is to prime the pad with the product itself. See Chris Dasher's article: A Look into Pad Priming. Also see: Priming a Pad.

Agreed.
And with DA you really don't need to QD the pad. Priming the pad with product is fine.

It might have been the brand new pad! I've experienced "dusting" when first using brand new Meguiar's pads. The problem disappeared on subsequent uses.

Me too. Sometime new pads do dust a little bit but I think that what the OP is saying is something more than that.

[APR Tuned]

Re: ugh...m205 dusting

This doesn't sound quite right. As I understand things, one need not use a QD to prime the pad when using either M205 or M105. All one needs to do is to prime the pad with the product itself. See Chris Dasher's article: A Look into Pad Priming. Also see: Priming a Pad.

I'm thinking I didn't prime the pad correctly. Mine did not look like that picture. The primed area was more centrally located while the outside area of the pad was relatively dry.

Oh and one more question. I market the top of the pad with a sharpie marker so I can tell if it's rotating. When performing paint correction, should the pad be rotating fast at all times? Most of the time, the black mark was rotating about once every half a second to a second. Seems slow but I wasn't sure.

[InfiniteDetail]

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Rotation speed sounds about right. I aim for about 120 RPM (twice/second)

[RaskyR1]

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It might have been the brand new pad! I've experienced "dusting" when first using brand new Meguiar's pads. The problem disappeared on subsequent uses.

+1 on the new pad dusting.


I've also never had any dusting with M205. How long were you working each section?

[Michael Stoops]

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As others have said, it sounds more like the dusting was some residual material from the manufacturing of the pad, especially if you got dust almost instantly. M205 generally offers a crazy long buffing cycle with virtually no dust at all. Even so, it does sound as though you were using more product than necessary, but with M205 even that shouldn't be causing a dust issue.

But this comment is a bit odd:

I dealt with it and finished the car topping it with NXT 2.0 which, of course, turns the car into a dust magnet as always.

I went out, came back home and went out into the garage about 2 hours later and the car was COVERED in dust from m205. It was horrible. All that work I put in just have to wash the car again. Did I do anything wrong? I heard of m105 dusting but not 205.

If you get dust from a product, or even a pad, it would be evident while you were working with it, not 2 hours later and after having applied a coat of wax. Under some ambient conditions, and with a static loaded towel and/or excessive buffing with said towel, we have seen a static buildup on the surface that can attract dust. From personal experience, one of my cars has a rear spoiler made of a composite material, and when wiping off almost anything (except a mist & wipe product) I can feel the static build up under certain ambient conditions.