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Swirl Remover 2.0 #9 just a filler?

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    Re: Swirl Remover 2.0 #9 just a filler?

    The scratch sensitivity of the paint plays a huge roll in how quickly new swirls develop.

    As an example, I used to have a Mazda Miata that was really just a weekend toy. I only drove it about 3000 miles a year, and it was otherwise always in the garage. I treated it exactly the same way I treated my daily driver - same wash techniques, same wax, same QD wipe downs, etc - except I didn't do any of those things anywhere near as often on the Miata. My daily could go more than a year before any new swirls would start to show up (see How to maintain your car's finish in-between polishing sessions for a write up on how that car is regularly maintained to this day) but that darn Miata would start to show swirls almost immediately. I used to refer to it as my trained dog - just say "scratch" and it was scratched! Drove me crazy because I babied the darn thing but it seemed that just looking at it hard would mar the paint.

    If you have scratch sensitive paint then ONR is probably not your best choice for routine washing. ONR definitely has benefits, plenty of them as a matter of fact, but for routine washing on scratch sensitive paint, it's probably not the best. But that's really less to do with ONR itself than with the process overall - you simply are not using enough water to properly flood the surface, the wash mitt, etc. When you're forced to use very little water and it's critically important to wash the surface (removal of road salt, etc in cold weather) then ONR is hard to beat. When you're a mobile detailer and using the least amount of water possible makes both economic and environmental sense, and you plan on machine polishing as part of your service anyway, then ONR can be very hard to beat. But is it the be all, end all of washes? No.
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    • #17
      Re: Swirl Remover 2.0 #9 just a filler?

      Originally posted by Caress Detailing View Post
      I sort of agree. I think ONR is great for detailing because more often than not we will Clay and clean the paint with a compound or polish anyway.

      But I notice that ONR isn't that great on removing embedded dirt. I ONR'd my wife's car today and for some reason it just didn't look clean.

      Traditional soaps like Gold Class will remove and clean any grease, grime and dirt.

      So I always try to weigh whether or not to use ONR or a traditional wash. I find myself just choosing it depending on the temperature outside.

      However, washing with ONR will only take me 15 minutes maximum to wash and dry, while a traditional wash will take up to 30-40.

      Overall I think everyone should just have both ONR and traditional soaps to be flexible.
      I concur.


      I also agree with Mike as my Acura is VERY prone to scratching and I have noticed light marring with ONR when the car has had anything more than a light coating of dust. In the winter I now rinse the car off first at the coin opp and then I pre soak with ONR using a garden sprayer....this seems to have solved the marring issues on my car.
      Rasky's Auto Detailing

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