Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

I just got some of the HCW and was going to clay and polish my car. Can I use the HCW after I polish or should I wax first with the mirror glaze 26 I usually use?

You can use it after polishing.

[pinoysurf]

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I just got some of the HCW and was going to clay and polish my car. Can I use the HCW after I polish or should I wax first with the mirror glaze 26 I usually use?

[parker23]

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I could and do...however the Ceramic Hybrid Wax seems much tougher and lasts longer. If that is not the case, please advise.

HCW is not tougher or more durable than UFF. Better water beading/hydrophobia, yes. Meguiars has said it can have equal durability IF applied correctly after paint is properly prepped.

[Jrhhunter]

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Why not just use Ultimate Fast Finish instead?

I could and do...however the Ceramic Hybrid Wax seems much tougher and lasts longer. If that is not the case, please advise.

[Cranston37]

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I really do not want to rinse with a strong spray of my hard water just to spread the product. or, maybe this product just doesn't work in my situation. Any additional advice?

Why not just use Ultimate Fast Finish instead?

[dwaleke]

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I really do not want to rinse with a strong spray of my hard water just to spread the product.

The main reason to buy this product is for the ease of application. Spray and rinse.

If you do not want to spray and rinse I'd use a different product.

[Jrhhunter]

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Nope. There is a huge difference between diluting at 10:1 (or even 15:1 like some are suggesting) and and spraying it onto the panel as directed and then distributing with a damp towel prior to drying. This will more thoroughly distribute the product (the full product, not a heavily diluted version of it) when a forceful stream of water is unavailable. Again, do NOT saturate the panel with the product. You just don't need to as this stuff spreads like crazy. Trust us on this - the formula is totally different than anything you've ever encountered before.

So, for my hard water situation, instead of diluting it with distilled water and using it in a mist and dry fashion, I would spray it undiluted and use a damp towel to spread....and then use another towel to dry? Sounds like a repeat of the foundation step to me, which is OK I guess. I really do not want to rinse with a strong spray of my hard water just to spread the product. or, maybe this product just doesn't work in my situation. Any additional advice?

[Michael Stoops]

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Sounds like diluting.....

Nope. There is a huge difference between diluting at 10:1 (or even 15:1 like some are suggesting) and and spraying it onto the panel as directed and then distributing with a damp towel prior to drying. This will more thoroughly distribute the product (the full product, not a heavily diluted version of it) when a forceful stream of water is unavailable. Again, do NOT saturate the panel with the product. You just don't need to as this stuff spreads like crazy. Trust us on this - the formula is totally different than anything you've ever encountered before.

[indyz]

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snip for brevity!
...... spraying just a bit less onto the panel, wet wiping it around to distribute......

Sounds like diluting.....

[Michael Stoops]

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Wow, lots of chatter here on diluting the product and I must say, it's kind of odd. You can't imagine what it took to develop this product - it's really pretty crazy stuff in a truly unique formulation that was actually really frustrating to develop. Diluting it to the level that some of you are, especially to avoid streaking, really just tells us that you're trying to reinvent what our chemists worked very hard at perfecting, and we dare say you're going to get inferior results because of it.

Throughout testing, and even with all the demos I've done with this product in multiple countries, we've gotten a very similar result when doing the foundation layer application; namely, a bit of streaking. Look, you guys are all MOL members, detailing enthusiasts, and as such you do some really weird stuff which, for the most part, we absolutely LOVE - it's fun to watch and we actually learn a thing or two from it!!! So please, keep it up!!! Except in this case, probably the weirdest thing you should do is to do the foundation layer, then immediately re-wet the car and do a "standard" application of the product.

As mentioned above, it's not uncommon at all to get a bit of streaking when doing the foundation layer on a black car. But every single time we've done this, and followed immediately with the standard application, 4 things happened:

1. the second drying process was insanely fast and easy - the water just jumped off the paint and into the towel. If you're blow drying the car, great, it should be a breeze now!
2. the slickness felt when towel drying the paint is crazy!!
3. the tightness of the water beads is insane, noticeably better than just after the foundation layer
4. any streaking you may have had from the foundation layer application is gone.

G. O. N. E.

Do not - and this can't be repeated enough - DO NOT overuse the product. DO NOT lightly rinse off the product with the hose. A couple of trigger pulls per panel (doors, fenders, quarter panels) is usually sufficient, with maybe three or four trigger pulls on large panels like hoods, trunk lids (depending on car, of course) and roof panels. While a pressure actually works best, if you don't have one then we highly recommend an adjustable nozzle on your hose, and select the flat fan spray rather than the hard central one. It just seems to work better. If you don't even have access to a hose, and you can't even get to a coin op wash bay with a pressure washer, then your only real option might be something like a rinseless wash followed by a light spraying of the product onto the panel, then spread it with a wet microfiber towel or wash mitt, and then dry the panel. But if you over use the product you're going to get streaking. If you dilute it dramatically to avoid streaking, you're going to lose the great effect of the product. You really are better off spraying just a bit less onto the panel, wet wiping it around to distribute, and then dry. It spreads like wildfire, it really is kind of bizarre how that works.

For more, check out this video from Autogeek featuring yours truly explaining the process in depth:

[indyz]

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Well, I did 1:10 on a dry car about 2 weeks ago. Car sat outside in the sun 24/7. Looks good. A bit of road grime near the bottoms. We got a few drops of rain today and there's great water beading on the horizontal surfaces. The vertical surfaces seem to have sheeted the water off

Considering my other application on the same car, of full strength HCW, only lasted a little over a month (outside 24/7), I am perfectly happy with "forcing" a 1:10 diluted, dry, HCW application. Avoids waste and streakiness, makes it easy to buff to a shine.
If I don't wash the car at least once in two weeks, its gets way to dirty for my tastes. The only reason I am holding off on washing the car is that I want to see how long diluted HCW lasts in the extreme sun and heat.

[parker23]

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Guys I hate to be a Debbie Downer but it seems a little crazy (and dare I say fruitless) to me to try and force a product to be a dry application quick wax, waterless wash application, etc. when it was literally designed from the ground up to be the exact OPPOSITE of all those. Dozens of already outstanding tested and proven products already exist to accomplish what you're trying to do with the HCW. The counter argument might be that you really want that semi ceramic protection and water beading. Well, massively diluting the HCW isn't going to offer great results on that end and using it dry as a waterless wash or wax is just going to lead to scratching, none of which is worth it to have diluted HCW coverage. I'm sure Meguiar's greatly appreciates the high interest, but there's no way they're going to comment on application methods that were never tested for. And if they do, it'll be "we never tested those application methods and can't make recommendations or comment on them. Do what you will with the product at your own risk, but we can only speak to and recommend methods that we tested and that the product was designed for."

[Jrhhunter]

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Tried 1:10 today. I always do it on a dried car, avoids waste. Its still slightly streaky. But very easy to buff off. Next up I'll try 1:15 in a few weeks

I have very hard well water, so can't wash my car at home. Therefore, I apply diluted MHCW when I get home from the local car wash. I used 1:6 dilution and it seemed to work fine. Wondering if meguiars can comment on the possible problems using this technique? Are we sure the car is getting protection?

[indyz]

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Tried 1:10 today. I always do it on a dried car, avoids waste. Its still slightly streaky. But very easy to buff off. Next up I'll try 1:15 in a few weeks

[georgeallen4]

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I tested 1:4 to dry panel after washing and it was a bit difficult to fully buff it off. I added a bit more water to my bottle, not sure what dilution it ended up being after that. I will try 1:7 or 1:8 like others had success with next time.
Good scent !!