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  • Nick Winn
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    Originally posted by Wildpanda86 View Post
    First of all, HCW works awesome!!! Prepped the car, did the base coat, and several weeks later washed it and spray and rinsed a second coat then dried the car with a leaf blower. The beading increased significantly after that wash.

    I plan to use a rinseless method with ONR for subsequent washes. I plan to use HCW as the drying agent while the panel is still wet with ONR. Any issues with this method? Would I need to wash my drying towel after every use because of the sio2 in the HCW?

    Originally posted by IBookmaster View Post
    How about mixing a bottle maybe 20 parts water and 1 part HCW and spraying it on liberally wiping off, then following with a separate microfiber towel soaked with water to do the rinse? Then finish with a drying microfiber towel. I like to do a waterless wash so, this is how I would like to use it if you all/Meguiars think this will do just as well as the bottle directions. So, do a waterless wash around my car. Then follow with the just described method for the HCW. There is a video on YouTube from the car care nut that did this. Except I don’t think he did a rinse towel. Has anybody tried this? How do you think this will work? Or how did it work for you? Thanks!
    Regarding the panel wet with ONR, and spraying HCW onto a panel wet with ONR, it is tough to say whether or not the cleaners in the ONR will affect the performance of HCW. My gut says I don't think it will be that big of deal. We would recommend applying it in the "foundation layer" / drying aid style like Wildpanda mentioned if you wanted to try it out. Other alternative would be to perform your ONR wash, dry the panel, spray plain water on panel, then spray HCW, then dry, but that would be a lot of extra work IMO.

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  • IBookmaster
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    How about mixing a bottle maybe 20 parts water and 1 part HCW and spraying it on liberally wiping off, then following with a separate microfiber towel soaked with water to do the rinse? Then finish with a drying microfiber towel. I like to do a waterless wash so, this is how I would like to use it if you all/Meguiars think this will do just as well as the bottle directions. So, do a waterless wash around my car. Then follow with the just described method for the HCW. There is a video on YouTube from the car care nut that did this. Except I don’t think he did a rinse towel. Has anybody tried this? How do you think this will work? Or how did it work for you? Thanks!

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  • Wildpanda86
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    First of all, HCW works awesome!!! Prepped the car, did the base coat, and several weeks later washed it and spray and rinsed a second coat then dried the car with a leaf blower. The beading increased significantly after that wash.

    I plan to use a rinseless method with ONR for subsequent washes. I plan to use HCW as the drying agent while the panel is still wet with ONR. Any issues with this method? Would I need to wash my drying towel after every use because of the sio2 in the HCW?

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  • Michael Stoops
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    Originally posted by sg11 View Post
    As far as the first application goes, you spray it on when the car is still wet and you wipe it off with a microfiber. Do you rinse it again after this step? From what I understand, there are parts of the solution that need to be washed away to leave the protective layer?
    Here's what you should do for the very first application of HCW, especially if you don't have a really strong layer of protection on the paint to begin with.

    "Foundation Layer"
    1. Wash the vehicle with your normal process, rinse thoroughly but leave wet
    2. Spray no more than 2 trigger pulls of product onto a panel - 3 for a large panel such as the hood of a large vehicle, roof, etc.
    3. Dry with a quality microfiber drying towel
    4. Done


    If, on the other hand, you have really nice water beading from a previous, fresh wax application or you've already done the foundation layer as described above, then do this:

    "Standard Application"
    1. Wash the vehicle with your normal process, rinse thoroughly but leave wet
    2. Spray no more than 2 trigger pulls of product onto a panel - 3 for a large panel such as the hood of a large vehicle, roof, etc.
    3. Rinse thoroughly with a strong stream of water. A pressure washer works great, but lacking same the best approach is to use a variable setting nozzle on your garden hose and select the flat fan spray pattern. Trust me here, it's the best choice of all the settings on the nozzle for this. We've tested more dang nozzles than I care to remember.
    4. Dry with a quality microfiber drying towel
    5. Done


    Now, if you're a regular here on MOL I'm guessing you're an enthusiast, or downright Car Crazy. Good for you. That means you might even want to do both of the above process in rapid succession. Yep, do the "foundation layer" process, then get the car wet and do the "standard application" process immediately. If you do this, especially on a non metallic black vehicle, you may see a very slight bit of streaking when you do the drying step of the foundation layer. Don't stress, don't fight it, don't do anything. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Just move on to the standard application process and you'll love the incredible slickness when you dry with a clean, dry towel. It's pretty crazy. And you'll see even tighter water beading immediately.

    There are basically two ways you can go wrong with this product:

    1. Over apply the product. Just go nuts spraying the car down with that lovely blue elixir. Lay it on super thick. You really want that protection!!!!

    STOP IT!!!

    That is NOT going to help you at all. In fact, it will make life much, much harder and you may end not liking a really awesome product! Why? Because you probably won't rinse off all of the carrier ingredients, which are actually highly hydrophillic - it loves water and will attract rather than repel it. So you end up with really lousy beading, and possibly a fair bit of streaking. True story - a friend of mine in Northern California applied HCW to his car and called me with this very complaint. I told him he probably overused the product. He admitted to using half the bottle on one car. I told him that was probably enough for 6 or 7 cars. He fell silent. He then asked how to fix it. I told him to wash the car with his regular car wash and everything would be fine, no need to even reapply the product. He said it was going to rain soon so he thought washing the car was a waste of time. I said "great!", let the car sit in the rain. That will wash off the last of the carrier ingredients, the beading will come up beautifully, and the streaking will be gone. He called me back that night and said it worked just as I said it would. Well, duh.

    2. Skip the foundation layer if the car has zero protection and water lays on the paint in a great big, non moving sheet. Just spray a little bit of HCW into that deep pool of water and rinse it off.

    STOP IT!!!

    That is NOT going to help you at all. A huge sheet of water on the paint won't let the active ingredients get to the paint. Those hydrophillic carrier ingredients will basically form a layer between the active ingredients and that huge sheet of water on the paint, so when you do rinse it off you rinse off everything. You leave nothing behind. If you have Lake Michigan sitting on your hood, partially dry it.... just move some of the water out of the way and expose a decent amount of paint. Don't dry it fully, just clear some of the water away. Now do the foundation layer process as described above, and then, because you're a MOL user, do the standard application as well. You'll thank me. Oh, but if water is doing a Lake Michigan impersonation on your hood, you've likely got some other issues.... like that paint may need to be clayed first, just as you normally would before applying a traditional wax or sealant. Do it.


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  • sg11
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    As far as the first application goes, you spray it on when the car is still wet and you wipe it off with a microfiber. Do you rinse it again after this step? From what I understand, there are parts of the solution that need to be washed away to leave the protective layer?

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  • Nick Winn
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    Originally posted by UMDHOOPS2002 View Post
    How long does Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax last? Estimated? Is it similar to Meguiars Ultimate wax? I ask because I live in the mid-Atlantic and it's just too cold to wash and wax during the winter.

    Does Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax have any UV properties? If not, what should I use on top?
    Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
    According to our R&D department, Hybrid Ceramic Wax can last up to a year. With that said, durability will be based on how the vehicle is stored & maintained. For example, a car that is not daily driven, stored indoors, wiped down with a detail spray everyday, was properly prepared, clayed, etc. is going to have much greater durability than a car that is driven daily, stored outdoors, washed monthly, was not properly prepared, etc.
    Please see above response, and also, yes, it protects against the sun. For best results we recommend using Hybrid Ceramic Wax in addition to your favorite liquid or paste wax.

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  • UMDHOOPS2002
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    How long does Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax last? Estimated? Is it similar to Meguiars Ultimate wax? I ask because I live in the mid-Atlantic and it's just too cold to wash and wax during the winter.

    Does Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax have any UV properties? If not, what should I use on top?

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  • Thomasfxlt
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    Originally posted by parker23 View Post
    I'd be surprised if that works since it comes out so thick but let us know! I'm curious.
    The trick is making sure the surface is damp and NOT spraying HCW directly onto the car. Apply a small amount to a damp towel then apply to a damp surface. Mist an area with water from a spray bottle then apply the HCW onto the damp towel and wipe/dry.

    I did this yesterday to my F150 and it works. Do it in the garage or shade. I did the entire vehicle with one drying towel and one microfiber applying towel.

    I wouldn’t waste a lot of time if the vehicle is really dirty but in a pinch to quick detail, it works and you’re going onto your previously HCW surface with HCW and not some other product.

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  • parker23
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    Originally posted by Thomasfxlt View Post
    So now I’m thinking about trying this as a semi-waterless detailer. I’d hate to use a something else on top of it so once you go HCW it seems you’re kind of committed. I’m thinking I’ll try misting the surface with plain water from a spray bottle and then use a damp cloth w small amount of product. Sort of the “drying aid” method but starting w dry car and then misting panel by panel. I think the key will be making sure the surface is cool/out of the sun. Obviously not something to do with a really dirty surface but as a quick touch up.
    I'd be surprised if that works since it comes out so thick but let us know! I'm curious.

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  • Thomasfxlt
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    So now I’m thinking about trying this as a semi-waterless detailer. I’d hate to use a something else on top of it so once you go HCW it seems you’re kind of committed. I’m thinking I’ll try misting the surface with plain water from a spray bottle and then use a damp cloth w small amount of product. Sort of the “drying aid” method but starting w dry car and then misting panel by panel. I think the key will be making sure the surface is cool/out of the sun. Obviously not something to do with a really dirty surface but as a quick touch up.

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  • Thomasfxlt
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    The rain yesterday helped but it looks like winter is not giving up it’s ghost just yet. I’m suppose to drive to Chicago on Thursday... ugh.

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  • BillE
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    Originally posted by Thomasfxlt View Post
    Good video. Answers a lot of obvious questions about the name of the product. I’ve been using HCW for 2 weeks now and have applied it to two different vehicles and it works. After you do the initial wipe-in, the spray on maintenance method is amazingly simple and vehicle drying is a fraction of the work. I like it.
    Looks like you will see how it works in snow this week (yuk - I still have a 5' drift in the back yard). Please come back and give a report on how it did.

    Bill

    Bill

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  • BillE
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    Thanx for the link Mike.

    Was kinda concerned when I saw the length (40min), but it was a good 40 min!

    Bill

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  • Thomasfxlt
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Wax

    Good video. Answers a lot of obvious questions about the name of the product. I’ve been using HCW for 2 weeks now and have applied it to two different vehicles and it works. After you do the initial wipe-in, the spray on maintenance method is amazingly simple and vehicle drying is a fraction of the work. I like it.

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  • The Guz
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    Some of the best info straight from the source on it.

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