Here’s Lookin’ at You… BMW M5 Reflections

[Mike Phillips]

Originally posted by KenL_BayAreaM5s
Mike, I completely agree with your comments in regard to Meguiar’s Reps in general, as everyone that I have ever met with your company truly practices what they preach and do so in a very hands-on manner. However, you guys seem to take more vacations than any other group of corporate employees that I am aware of so the “long hours� comment has me confused a bit. Just kidding, as I know you all tend to work hard and then balance it out by playing hard as well i.e. vacations, etc.

Regards,

Ken Little

Off hand, I don't know anything about the vacation habits of any Meguiar's employees. What I do know is they all put a lot of time and passion into their profession.

As for M07 Show Car Glaze, this is a non-abrasive pure polish. It contains no ingredients with the intended purpose of abrading the finish. If you are able to remove fine swirls with this product it isn't the product doing the removal, it's the application material and the polishing action as a result of this material and the physical action against the surface. The M07 just acts as a lubricant to cushion or buffer the cleaning/polishing effect.

Also just to point out to anyone reading this, Meguiar's doesn't recommend using the M02 Fine Cut Cleaner with the dual action polisher as this tool will not effectively break down the type of diminishing abrasives used in this product, or any of the traditional Mirror Glaze products such as M01 Medium Cut Cleaner, and M04 Heavy Cut Cleaner. If you choose to use the M02 with a dual action polisher or a orbital polisher it is under your own discretion, and not the recommendation of Meguiar's.

Meguiar's also doesn't recommend operating the dual action polisher at speeds over the 5.0 setting as the heat generated at this speed over time will transfer to the backing plate and cause de-lamination problems with the Velcro. In some cases, this high speed can also cause hazing of the finish depending on the product you're using and the type of paint you're working on.

Just to note, like Ken I've been using Meguiar's since the 1970's and have a lot of experience with the Traditional Mirror Glaze line of products with the rotary buffer. Believe it or not, the M01, M02 and the M04 at one time were recommended for use with orbital buffers and/or by hand application.

When the industry switched to clear coat paints, (typically harder paints), people began to notice the hand application and even the orbital buffer application of these product could potentially leave the finish marred or scratched, thus we re-labeled the products and changed the application recommendations to rotary only.

Hope this helps...

Mike

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Again I misspoke. When I said "hazing" I meant the introduction of smaller micro scratches due to the abrasive properties of the product used. This type of haze rather than haze from residual dried up product left on the surface of the paint.

I've never employed the techniques you mentioned using M02. The reason why I ask is some folks have noticed some marring/hazing left behind after using lets say #83 (6 out of 10 on the abrasive scale). They then step down (what I call step down) the polish to a finer cut (like 3 out of 10) to restore shine. I just thought since the M02 is for rotary use one of the inherit properties of using M02 with the PC would be tons of micro marring. That would then need a second polish to remove the marring.

I've not really noticed the need to step down polishes after using #83, but I could have missed the signs.

The way I read your replies shows me that M02 doesn't leave behind micro marring since you break the product down thoroughly. The use of M07 is simply to get the results of what M07 does best, give a deep, wet look!

As a side note regarding the hazing due to humidity, I've noticed more residual product left behind this past winter than all of last summer. Especially the #80 speed glaze. It doesn't seem to like cold weather. I'm not going to change climates because of the finickiness of a polish. Unless the wife says its OK.

Thanks for your great replies. I'm going to print them out for further study and reference. When I quickly skimmed your reply and saw you said to use QD to remove the haze I was referring to (micro scratches). I was thinking this dude's the man if he can remove marring with QD and towel.

[new shine detailing]

Great pictures!

Would you have more pictures of the black car?