2001WS-6's Detail (Reflections Inside)

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Re: 2001WS-6's Detail (Reflections Inside)

Speaking with Meguiar's themselves they made the suggestion as the glaze gets the rich oils back into the paint. The NXT leaves a wax/sealant finish, and then the #26 has that Carnuba Blend.

I hear ya, I'm not saying #7 doesn't put oils back into the paint, though chemically I don't now how true that is, but what I'm saying is it's those oils that prevent 2.0 from bonding with the paint. 2.0, according to Meguiars, is a sealant. Sealants are always put on clean untreated paint so the sealant can bond with the paint. Most quality sealants will last at least a couple months but if you put it over a glaze, it's going to be pointless because it's not going to do what its supposed to do. You're not really using 2.0 for it's looks, at least the way you're doing it, because you're using #7 and #26 for that. So 2.0 should be used for what sealants are used for and that's protecting the paint. The glaze should be the last thing you put on. It should be....

2.0
#26
#7 but again, if you're just going more for looks, you don't need to do #26 as all your gloss and shine will be coming from #7. However, #7 has no longevity and it comes off rather quickly. Most people will use right before a show because of it's oily factor it give a lot of shine. I know everyone has their own techniques but the one thing any detailer I know would agree on is that sealants go on first. Just trying to help, I hate seeing people waste products.

[Shawn T.]

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I hear ya, I'm not saying #7 doesn't put oils back into the paint, though chemically I don't now how true that is, but what I'm saying is it's those oils that prevent 2.0 from bonding with the paint. 2.0, according to Meguiars, is a sealant. Sealants are always put on clean untreated paint so the sealant can bond with the paint. Most quality sealants will last at least a couple months but if you put it over a glaze, it's going to be pointless because it's not going to do what its supposed to do. You're not really using 2.0 for it's looks, at least the way you're doing it, because you're using #7 and #26 for that. So 2.0 should be used for what sealants are used for and that's protecting the paint. The glaze should be the last thing you put on. It should be....

2.0
#26
#7 but again, if you're just going more for looks, you don't need to do #26 as all your gloss and shine will be coming from #7. However, #7 has no longevity and it comes off rather quickly. Most people will use right before a show because of it's oily factor it give a lot of shine. I know everyone has their own techniques but the one thing any detailer I know would agree on is that sealants go on first. Just trying to help, I hate seeing people waste products.

M07 will work well with NXT 2.0. Meguiars would not recommend this procedure if the products were not compatible:http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4831

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M07 will work well with NXT 2.0. Meguiars would not recommend this procedure if the products were not compatible:http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4831

I'm not saying their products aren't compatible, I'm just saying there's an order in which applying them needs to be done to MAXIMIZE the products life on your car. I'm just commenting from my experience and tons of detailers I know, some being nationally known, would NEVER put a sealant over an oily glaze. It's the same reason many detailers will wipe a car down with a 50/50 mix of water and Isopropyl alcohol before they put a sealant on because they are wanting to get rid of any oils left behind by the polish. Think about spraying a pan with Pam and then cooking an egg. The egg doesn't stick because Pam is between the pan and the egg stopping it from sticking. Sealants are meant to bond with your cars paint and an oily glaze will stop that from happening because it's creating a barrier between the sealant and the paint. The only glaze I know of that can be put down first and then topped with a wax or sealant without any bonding issues is Danase Wet Glaze and that's because it uses acrylic polymers unlike other glazes. Trust me that this is just my opinion, if you go to any of the major detailing boards out there and ask any of the big detailers in the US if they would put a sealant over an oily glaze and I don't believe you will find one that would say yes.

[BlackScreaminMachine]

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^ I hear what your saying but thats is what I noticed using Glaze, is that when working it with a 30$ wax spreader, it goes on thin, and even and then I buff off with a Terry cloth towel and I get almost a squeeky sound as it has nothing on there. Its no greasy or oily.

As per Meguiars it has been wash, clay (if needed), glaze, sealant, and top with a Carnuba if needed and the results of the last few cars I have done has been spectacular.

So who is to say. MOST professional detailers go for speed before quality and chemicals like Ardex are designed for that reason.

I got 150$ and did the job in 4.5hrs and used probably 5$ worth of product. Tax free is for me.

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^ I hear what your saying but thats is what I noticed using Glaze, is that when working it with a 30$ wax spreader, it goes on thin, and even and then I buff off with a Terry cloth towel and I get almost a squeeky sound as it has nothing on there. Its no greasy or oily.

As per Meguiars it has been wash, clay (if needed), glaze, sealant, and top with a Carnuba if needed and the results of the last few cars I have done has been spectacular.

So who is to say. MOST professional detailers go for speed before quality and chemicals like Ardex are designed for that reason.

I got 150$ and did the job in 4.5hrs and used probably 5$ worth of product. Tax free is for me.

It's all good man, I'm just saying do a little research on some of the national boards where the top detailes in the US hang out. When I'm talking about other detailers, I'm not talking about the hacks that are all about speed, I'm talking about the guys that are nationally known. You will never see any of them recommend putting a glaze before a sealant. No matter how clean you get the surface there's still going to be oils there and they are still going to stop the sealant from bonding with the paint. Just try laying the sealant down first, then the wax and then the glaze. If anything I'd be doing a carnauba over a glaze only because glazes, especially #7 are usually gone in 2-3 weeks tops, especially in the summer when it's hot. Carnauba's you can usually get at least a month or so out of so if you're looking for protection, go with carnauba. If it's just looks use #7 but it's not really going to give you any protection so to speak. In all honestly, if the paint is properly prepped and polished, all you need is 2.0 and a carnauba because 90%+ of how a car looks when you're done has to do with how the paint was prepped.

[Shawn T.]

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I'm not saying their products aren't compatible, I'm just saying there's an order in which applying them needs to be done to MAXIMIZE the products life on your car. I'm just commenting from my experience and tons of detailers I know, some being nationally known, would NEVER put a sealant over an oily glaze. It's the same reason many detailers will wipe a car down with a 50/50 mix of water and Isopropyl alcohol before they put a sealant on because they are wanting to get rid of any oils left behind by the polish. Think about spraying a pan with Pam and then cooking an egg. The egg doesn't stick because Pam is between the pan and the egg stopping it from sticking. Sealants are meant to bond with your cars paint and an oily glaze will stop that from happening because it's creating a barrier between the sealant and the paint. The only glaze I know of that can be put down first and then topped with a wax or sealant without any bonding issues is Danase Wet Glaze and that's because it uses acrylic polymers unlike other glazes. Trust me that this is just my opinion, if you go to any of the major detailing boards out there and ask any of the big detailers in the US if they would put a sealant over an oily glaze and I don't believe you will find one that would say yes.

I see what you're saying. I was not trying to be condescending or disrespectful in my previous post. You sound like you have mountains more detailing experience than me and I respect everything you have to say.

Thanks for the great info!

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I see what you're saying. I was not trying to be condescending or disrespectful in my previous post. You sound like you have mountains more detailing experience than me and I respect everything you have to say.

Thanks for the great info!

Don't sweat it man you weren't being disrespectful or condescending at all. It's good to question things otherwise how do any of us progress with our skills?

[Michael Stoops]

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It is true that many synthetic sealants on the market will tell you to only apply them to a perfectly clean surface. But all Meguiar's products are designed to be cross compatible, so laying NXT Tech Wax 2.0 down on top of a coat of M07 Show Car Glaze is going to be perfectly fine. We can't say the same about a competitors synthetic sealant, however. And that's not good, bad or otherwise - it just is.

Don't forget that NXT is actually a polish/wax, meaning it already has some polishing oils in it that are quite similar to what's found in M07.

This is why it's always important to understand the product you're using, and to follow the manufacturer's directions. If you're going to use a sealant that specifically states to NOT use it on top of a glaze or pure polish, then don't. Simple as that. That manufacturer has a really good picture of how their product behaves, so listen to them.

But if you're using all Meguiar's products, you're good to go.

[Shawn T.]

Re: 2001WS-6's Detail (Reflections Inside)

It is true that many synthetic sealants on the market will tell you to only apply them to a perfectly clean surface. But all Meguiar's products are designed to be cross compatible, so laying NXT Tech Wax 2.0 down on top of a coat of M07 Show Car Glaze is going to be perfectly fine. We can't say the same about a competitors synthetic sealant, however. And that's not good, bad or otherwise - it just is.

Don't forget that NXT is actually a polish/wax, meaning it already has some polishing oils in it that are quite similar to what's found in M07.

This is why it's always important to understand the product you're using, and to follow the manufacturer's directions. If you're going to use a sealant that specifically states to NOT use it on top of a glaze or pure polish, then don't. Simple as that. That manufacturer has a really good picture of how their product behaves, so listen to them.

But if you're using all Meguiar's products, you're good to go.

Thanks Mike!

[BlackScreaminMachine]

Re: 2001WS-6's Detail (Reflections Inside)

It is true that many synthetic sealants on the market will tell you to only apply them to a perfectly clean surface. But all Meguiar's products are designed to be cross compatible, so laying NXT Tech Wax 2.0 down on top of a coat of M07 Show Car Glaze is going to be perfectly fine. We can't say the same about a competitors synthetic sealant, however. And that's not good, bad or otherwise - it just is.

Don't forget that NXT is actually a polish/wax, meaning it already has some polishing oils in it that are quite similar to what's found in M07.

This is why it's always important to understand the product you're using, and to follow the manufacturer's directions. If you're going to use a sealant that specifically states to NOT use it on top of a glaze or pure polish, then don't. Simple as that. That manufacturer has a really good picture of how their product behaves, so listen to them.

But if you're using all Meguiar's products, you're good to go.

Thanks for the PM back!

Basically Meguiar's is designed to allow their products to work together. From this point FWD.

#7 Show Car Glaze
NXT 2.0
#26 HI-tech Yellow

Winning Combo!!