Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

[RaskyR1]

So this weekend I hosted an open training day for fellow members of the 8thcivic.com forum. I also extended the invite for friends. There was about 30-35 people signed up but being a beautiful weekend in MN I wasn't surprised to only see 20 or so show.

There was a few memebrs that drove a long distance....IL being the furthest.

The event include the following.

So this idea was actually inspired by all the Zaino talk on the forum.


So here is the plan; any other ideas are welcome and will be added to the list of events if approved.
Tentative date and time: June 21, 2008 from 11:00 A.M. till whenever
-BBQ burgers and brats, chips
-Soda/water
-Open discussion on detailing questions and requested demonstrations
-Flex polisher, PC and/or Rotary demo
-Show how to remove swirls using M83, M80, and or M09
-Event Highlight:
Wax comparison! (Bring your favorite wax if you wish....though I have a LOT of them)
We will tape off 6-8 sections of a recently polished black hood and compare the results. Each section brand/wax will only be known by me and 1-2 others
-It would be nice for someone to bring a high end still or video camera so we can post pics and results.
-I’m close to a high school for a photo shoot and we could zip up Hwy 101 for a cruise later.

I will have a beat up old black car which is in need of serious help. Anyone who wants to try out either of the 3 polishers can do so. The interior is very dirty too so I can show how to clean any area you may want to see. I'm sure the owner of the car would like to see it all buffed out by the end of the day so please don't be afraid to try out any of the polishers. I will give a demo on all of them before hand.

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

The pad!


Some of the cars and pics of members as we waited for others to show.











Me in the yellow





I recieved my D151 in time for the meet. Had VERY god feedbck from the users on this stuff!



Porter Cable demo



Bill checking out the PC with the new Meguiars D151



Josh working the FLEX



Bill on the FLEX


Scott on the PC


Isaac on the FLEX

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Rotary demo with Meguiars M105 compound...memebers were BLOWN away at what the M105 could do with a rotary!!!







Following up with the FLEX and D151




after pic





Clay demo for some people that showed up later



Taping off to protect moldings



The winner of the longest drive award!
Thanks for making the long trip all they way out from IL!



See guys, it's so safe and easy even a girl can do it!


After seeing my girl try the PC Joe figured hew could do it too.



Bill got a great shot of all the supplies

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Before and after pics of the test car....1990 Mazdarati!

A thanks to the owner for letting us go to town on it.

before





damage from bra on the car






After

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Last but not least was the wax test. I got a black hood from my fathers body shop and buffed it out using M105 after wet-sanding and followed up with Menz Nano polish so people didn't think I was trying to give Meguiars the edge. I then washed the hood before taping 6 sections off.

Here is the hood before and after. I had to limit to one side of the hood since the damage was far to extensive to be removed.

Before


M105 is the BOMB!



After





Now just to get an unbiased opinion I had my g/f apply and remove all the waxes. She also noted what she thought of each during the application. All waxes were applied with seperate foam pads and removed with seperat towels. All waxes were given 45 minutes to dry.

The contenders...


Pic in the sun about 11:00



I had the hood sitting in the sun before the members arived and none of them knew which wax was where. People were supposed to vote on which they thought looked best but only 3-4 people voted.

Things to be noted...

3 of the waxes made the paint very dark in color with Black Magic being the darkest followed by NXT 2.0 and Zaino Z2.

At mid day with the sun directly over head all waxes looked about the same. Later in the day you could start to see the above 3 look darker again.

All waxes seemed to really make the red metalic in the paint POP.

My g/f said the Black Magic would not come off as well as the Groits an I actually had to help her remove them...even I had a hard time with them.

She did not like the idea of mixing trh Zaino in the little bottles and having to add the ZXF.

She found the Nattys Blue and NXT to be the easiest to apply and remove

Mothers and Zaino were next in the ease to remove.



We sprayed water on the hood but did not see a difference in beading. I will keep the hood outside for long term testing.

I think in the end everyone agreed that NXT yeilded some of the best results and was FAR easier to use then some of the others and at a lower cost.

I think we were all very surprised with how dark Black Magic made the paint look but the unreasonable effort it requires to remove made no one even consider using it.



Rasky

[Marc08EX]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

nice turn around Rasky!!! Wish I can attend the event!! I want to learn how to properly use everything esp the Flex!

[Tom Weed]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Hey Rasky,
great event and write up you did!

[ZoranC]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Amount of compression of the pads I perceive from these pictures indicates too much pressure is being used with Flex.

[ZoranC]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

In this picture too.

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

I was using my old worn pads so that could be why. I stated to use about 15lbs pressure and it was not enough pressure to stop the PC from rotating which is what I use as a measure of when your pressing too hard. I had a mark on the back of the backing plate so they could see when it was spinning.

Pad in this pic is compressed in the same manner yet my pad was always rotating durring the demo's...

[Deaner5]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

I remember you talking about this event and I was meaning to PM you about getting an invite (I'm in the Southeast metro and have never used a polisher), but I never did. Glad to see the event went well and it looks like you learned a few things about a few products.

Now if we could only get a Meguiar's class in the midwest........

[yalerd]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Very nice job helping out others and teaching

[J. A. Michaels]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

That was a great idea you had. "Each one teach one" at its best. Great idea, andglad it was a success.

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

Thanks guys!

I have hundreds of pics but only posted a few. I'll go thru and see if there are any other I like. A memeber of the forum had his high end DSLR camera and he even rented a $1200 lens just for the occasion. I think you can tell which pics were his and which were from my camera. I was a little disapointed some people didn't show but the Back to the 50's car show was going on at the same time and with 11,000 plus cars I can't blame people for skipping out.

Rasky

[RaskyR1]

Re: Open Detail training at Rasky's Auto Detailing June 21st, 2008 56K NO WAY!

LOL...

The BBQ was also a great hit, though I haven't seen any pics of that yet. I managed to get a chicken leg which I ate while showing my girl how to use the PC. I had no idea Bill as taking pics at that time!