Orange peel trouble

[godfearingman2011]

Hi I hope I'm not double posting but I have a black 2014 Corolla LE with severe orange peel and the dealership is saying that there's rock/chip guard in the paint itself causing the orange peel look that it's the texture of the paint. Is there anything I can do get rid of the what looks like orange peel to me without repainting the whole car and or voiding my paint warranty? Any help is greatly appreciated thanks for your help and advice in advance

[Michael Stoops]

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Unfortunately, orange peel is the order of the day in modern factory paint jobs. But the rock guard areas are usually confined to rocker panels and other bottom-of-the-car areas. One of our co-workers here at Meguiar's recently purchased a 2014 Corolla as well, in metallic black, and while helping him buff out a few deeper scratches in the paint it was obvious that the car has fairly heavy orange peel, no doubt about it. But really, there isn't much of anything you can do about other than sand it flat, and then buff out the sanding marks. We are most definitely NOT recommending you do that, however, as it is fraught with danger. First off, your factory applied clear coat is only about 1.5 to 2.0 mils thick - that's a max of 2/1000 of an inch, which is as thin as it sounds. Sanding the texture flat, or even close to flat, would remove so much of that film thickness that you would seriously compromise the UV protection in the clear, with premature clear coat failure being the end result. Further, even if you did sand it flat you would need to be very well accomplished in the process as it's easy to cause much more pain than glory here. But even then, you need to be able to remove the sanding marks, which means some fairly aggressive buffing. That's easier today than it was just a few years ago since now, with microfiber pads and compounds like M105/M100/M101 we can often remove sanding marks with a DA and skip the rotary completely. But consider this: even if you did sand the peel flat, and you did compound out all the sanding marks, then what? You've removed so much clear coat that now you're basically done with the car for ever. Got a fresh scratch? Too bad - there is no longer enough clear left to allow safe removal of that scratch. Is the paint a bit on the soft side and you keep getting swirl marks? Too bad - you don't get to compound the car every year now because, you guessed it, there's hardly any clear coat left.

Yes, it's a bit of a Catch-22, but that's what we face with brand new cars these days. And we see similar heavy texture issues on all kinds of cars, not just Corollas. We see it on many domestic vehicles as well as both Japanese and European imports.

[learning curve]

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When I first got my ’13 Accent I didn’t know what orange peel was. A month later do to road damage my bumper cover had to be replaced. And I complained that they did not match the texture. They said they couldn’t since the peel came from the factory and they painted the cover by hand. They made it too nice. Michael I really like your “therapy quote” it already has saved me some grief, thank you.

[godfearingman2011]

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If I could get the dealership to wet sand and buff it out would keeping it waxed and everything keep the paint protected? Or nothing will help afterwards?

[The Guz]

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You could always use a more durable form of protection such as opti-coat, cquatz or another one of the popular coatings if you go the wetsnad approach.

Could you post a photo so we could see what you are having issues with?

[godfearingman2011]

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I've always used meguiars products for year now from there car washes to wax and everything in between how can I add photo's?

[The Guz]

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You can either use photobucket to host them or use the gallery here to host them. I crop and resize my photos using Microsfot office picture manager and then upload on here to use the Meguiar's gallery. These links should help you out.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?60104-How-To-Inserting-Images-Creating-Photo-Albums

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?26526-How-to-place-an-image-in-your-messages

[godfearingman2011]

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[godfearingman2011]

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[godfearingman2011]

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[godfearingman2011]

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[Jarhead0754]

The last 2 pictures almost look photoshopped, but the 1st indeed is very noticeable. If that's how the entire car is that is horrendous! I did notice a piece of rust in that 1st pic or am I mistaken? And for a brand new car u might want to go straight to the manufacture if another dealer won't honor ur warranty.

[davey g-force]

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Like Michael said, orange peel is the norm for OEM paints. But I must say, your OP is heavier than most.

Is it like that on the whole car, or only certain panels? Are you sure the car (or parts thereof) weren't re-painted by the dealer for some reason?

If it's a repaint, then you can probably correct, or at least improve it, since repaints are generally much thicker than OEM paint. If it's definitely OEM paint, then I wouldn't risk trying to correct it, as it will be very thin.

Unfortunately, I don't like your chances of getting the dealer or manufacturer to pay for it either

[godfearingman2011]

I haven't noticed any rust but I could be mistaken I used an app to lighten up the pictures some because of the lighting conditions I can post the one's untouched at let y'all see what y'all think

[godfearingman2011]

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