Orange peel trouble

[BillE]

Re: Orange peel trouble

Excellent points Mike!

That should be required reading by EVERYONE who is considering (or even thinking about) 'orange peel removal.'

Bill

[Michael Stoops]

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If you're really going to look for someone to sand your factory peel reasonably flat and buff it out, make absolutely certain that they're using a good quality paint thickness gauge and that they really know how to use it. And be prepared to pay a hefty price for the privilege of having your clear coat removed. If someone says they'll do the job for $750, run, don't walk, away. This is a highly specialized process and, although anyone can sand the paint and buff it out, the real skill is in taking off only as much paint as needed to flatten the paint, and not a micron more. That skill comes at a price. And again, once that paint is sanded flat, you're pretty much done with it for the life of the car. You can no longer safely buff out a scratch. Annual swirl removal becomes more and more dangerous as the years go by. There is just so much more downside to this on factory paint than there is upside.

[The Guz]

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You can post over on Autogeek that you are looking for someone to do that for you. There are lots of detailers on that forum.

[godfearingman2011]

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One option is to take it to a pro for some wetsanding and have the car opti-coated.

How do I find someone who doea that?

[Michael Stoops]

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The level of orange peel seen in your pictures is pretty much on par with our co-worker's new Corolla, too. Yes, it does seem heavier than usual but it sort of is what it is.


Take this idea, write it down on a piece of paper, then shred the paper and burn the shreds. Hopefully that will kill the idea of letting your dealership do this.

If I could get the dealership to wet sand and buff it out would keeping it waxed and everything keep the paint protected? Or nothing will help afterwards?

If you really want the peel gone, or at least significantly reduced, you'll need to find a highly qualified professional detailer who specializes in such a process, and be prepared to shell out some serious money for the privilege. You could easily be looking at $1500 or more just to wet sand, cut and buff the car. If you then want a coating applied, that could easily be another $500 for a professional application. But you never again get to fix a scratch or buff out the car for the remainder of the time you own it. And even if you don't do any further buffing, odds are so much material will have been removed that the clear will be so seriously compromised that it may well fail in a few years.

[Selectchoice]

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If I were you, I'd make a call to the MANUFACTURER, not dealership, and log a complaint. You never know what they will offer, and at worst you will be one more voice in the 'we don't like orange peel and we're not gonna take it anymore' army.

[davey g-force]

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Carpro make Denim Orange Peel Removal Pads, which are supposed to be effective, yet safer than wetsanding.

Perhaps you should look into those (try Autogeek).

[godfearingman2011]

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It's much harder to see orange peel in direct sunlight, which these photos are mainly taken in. In areas where any given vehicle's paint is not in direct sunlight, say a later afternoon, earlier morning scenario, it becomes much easier to see.

The orange peel is very prominent to me in your pics, but I think it is consistent of similar models, which may make your case harder to stake with a manufacturer correcting it.
I had a manufacturer call me a few years ago doing a survey on what I liked/disliked about the car I'd bought. I mentioned the horrible levels of orange peel. The lady on the phone had no idea what I was talking about until I gave her a rather in depth description. She asked to call me back so she could go and look at their new vehicle stock. She came back with a full understanding of my issue and logged my complaint. Unfortunately, until more car purchasers (a LOT more I'm guessing) make similar complaints, then it will remain the same. And since most people don't fully understand (or care that much about their vehicle's paintwork) that might be a long time coming.

Yea if I knew most new cars looked like this I would've kept my fusion it didn't have any orange peel at all I'm trying to see if I can find people who's not happy with the paint looking like this like I am so hopefully manufacturers will fix this issue if enough people complain, is there anything I can do to diminish the appearance of the orange peel?

[godfearingman2011]

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I don't know anyone that's into car's as much as me lol

[davey g-force]

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Lol you're not the only one. There's a few of us out there...

[godfearingman2011]

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My car is like my children since I don't have any or a wives or girlfriend my extra money goes into my car's I've been into car's since I was 17-18 and I'm 35 now my friends and family all say I'm semi-obsessed lol

[davey g-force]

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Let's start a petition.... where do I sign?

[Selectchoice]

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It's much harder to see orange peel in direct sunlight, which these photos are mainly taken in. In areas where any given vehicle's paint is not in direct sunlight, say a later afternoon, earlier morning scenario, it becomes much easier to see.

The orange peel is very prominent to me in your pics, but I think it is consistent of similar models, which may make your case harder to stake with a manufacturer correcting it.

I had a manufacturer call me a few years ago doing a survey on what I liked/disliked about the car I'd bought. I mentioned the horrible levels of orange peel. The lady on the phone had no idea what I was talking about until I gave her a rather in depth description. She asked to call me back so she could go and look at their new vehicle stock. She came back with a full understanding of my issue and logged my complaint. Unfortunately, until more car purchasers (a LOT more I'm guessing) make similar complaints, then it will remain the same. And since most people don't fully understand (or care that much about their vehicle's paintwork) that might be a long time coming.

[davey g-force]

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I think it actually doesn't look as bad in the last set of photos. Still slightly 'above normal' levels of OP.

Depends how much it bothers you I guess...

[learning curve]

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I feel your pain, you buy a new car and as soon as you sign the dealer loses interest. That is a lot of orange peel. I for one will be following your story.