Gold Class Wax over NXT?

[BondoKing]

Cool thanx for the answers

Matthew

[Cassman]

Originally posted by BondoKing
I am curious as to something... Why do I always read of you all putting on more than one coat of wax or wax and polish combos?? Seems odd, once the paint is sealed it is sealed... I was not aware you could build a film thickness of wax or needed to.... I read where some of you all are using one polish/sealer/wax and then another polish/wax or just plain ole wax...

Over the years doing bodywork I rarely mess with wax or sealers for that matter.. I do for my own vehicles when i take the time, but I use things that have proven to last several months with one application... Someone give me your reasons please

Matthew

I was one of those normal people like you until I got my black G35. It is the most expensive car I have owned and the first black one. I always liked to keep my cars clean, but never realized that black is such a chore. If you read my initial question, you can see that I have more than enough protectant on the car. However, like Jeff, I am looking for that "something" that really makes the car "pop". I'm not there yet, but I think I am close. In my opinion the GC over the NXT looked very nice on black. It has become part obsession and part hobby. I find it very fulfilling to work on my car. Unfortunately, my wife and three young kids don't see it that way, so I have to obsess at odd times of day or night. Ha.

[05PhillyStang]

I think everyone here has made good points. And collectively, we have described why we do what we do...to make our car look its best. No matter how nice my car turns out, or how long it took me to do it I will always ask myself "what if tried (insert product here) instead?"

Jeff, your observation of no one wax standing out more than another reminded me of a few washes ago where after washing, I cleaned and waxed one half of the hood. Since the paint is less than a year old and in fairly good condition, you could barely tell that one half wasn't waxed as recently as the other. However, I took a clean Ultra Plush Terry and gently glided the towel over the hood from the waxed end to the "unwaxed" end. When I hit the untreated end, the towel stopped gliding smoothly. On the waxed end, the towel practically slid right off the hood. Keep in mind, the other half of the hood was still nice, as it was given a recent full detail and and a recent application of spray wax, but there was an obvious difference in feel. Imagine what the difference would have been on an oxidzed surface.

I will admit, I have questioned myself, wondering if all this work is worth it, then I realize that what I'm doing will make my car look its best. Sure, I can wax my car without surface prep today and it would still look good. But two years down the road, all the "sealed in" dirt and oxidation will definitely show.

As for the layering of different types, there's no scientific proof that a particular wax over another wax will look better or worse than a different layering combo, or no layering at all. However, the two coat method helps to ensure uniform application, so at least you get that. Plus, a little expirimentation keeps it interesting.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Don
It's a safe bet to say that most of us could take a car seconds after it rolled off the assembly line and point out flaws and imperfections and be just dying to 'fix' them.

Well put Don. In addition to your last comment, I'd like to add that those of us with the inclination, who have been fortunate enough to have folks willing to teach and aeplain things, could take that same car off the assembly line, even with a flawless finish and make it look even better.

My feeling about how all this applies to my situationis this. I am 39 years old, recently got into this as a hobby. Over the corse of a few months realized that this is one of those hobbies that really pays off. Some time spent from the get-go, while my enthusiasm level is way up, learning as much as I can about the various products and what they can do will pay off over the long haul. I am gaining the experience and putting together the support products to keep my vehicles in excellent condition and can seriously consider my vehicles as worthwhile investments as when I go to trade one in, it will have been well kept. So this is one of those hobbies one get get into that will yield big payoffs over time, even when not done for money.

[Don]

Originally posted by Jeff Smith
I am 39 years old, recently got into this as a hobby. Over the corse of a few months realized that this is one of those hobbies that really pays off.

I am gaining the experience and putting together the support products to keep my vehicles in excellent condition and can seriously consider my vehicles as worthwhile investments as when I go to trade one in, it will have been well kept. So this is one of those hobbies one get get into that will yield big payoffs over time, even when not done for money.

Just validating your post in that the OC detailing regimens we put our cars through helps them retain their value. Several years ago, even before my abilities were anywhere near what they are now, I had a 1988 Chevrolet Beretta GT. It was metallic black with blue/gray interior, V6, 5 Speed, performance suspension and digital dash. It had been sold in 1987 new as an '88 model and I had bought it used.

Because of some "misunderstandings and misrepresentations" by the dealer, I ended up not trusting the car so I looked to trade it in (In hindsight, it was a mistake, but I was young and stupid...). I first looked at '88 Camaros, but couldn't find a dealer that would 'work' with me. Their trade in offer was $4,500. Fast forward to the '89 model year. I went to the Chevrolet dealership looking at the new Camaros, when their used car guy came back after checking out my Beretta, their trade in offer was $4,500.

In a year's time and with more mileage, it had NOT depreciated at all.

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Don

In a year's time and with more mileage, it had NOT depreciated at all.

A liitle time, some elbow grease. Not bad at all.