Gold Class Wax over NXT?

[Cassman]

I am new to the forum and I did a search, but could not find a direct answer. Sorry if I missed it. Anyway, I understand that NXT should not go over another wax due to its cleaning properties and because it may affect the bonding. What about Gold Class Wax over NXT? Has anyone tried it? How does it look? I recently used my DA to polish the car using - only because it was all I could get locally - 3m finess it II compound, followed by #9, followed by #7, followed by NXT liquid and finally, a week later, Collinite wax. I just found a bottle of Gold Class that I bought last year. As have many of you, I have become ridiculously compulsive obsessive since buying my black G35 coupe in January. My latest idea is to use the Gold Class, but I don't want to just waste my time. Well, maybe I do. Ha.

[Murr1525]

Yes, Gold Class will work fine.

[Don]

I have found NXT to be an EXCELLENT base for many carnuaba-type waxes

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Don
I have found NXT to be an EXCELLENT base for many carnuaba-type waxes

I have not tried it yet But I am leaning on trying #26 over my NXT next.

[Cassman]

Thanks.

[Black Bart]

Originally posted by Jeff Smith
I have not tried it yet But I am leaning on trying #26 over my NXT next.

I have used #26 over NXT and I think it looks better than NXT alone. Never used Gold Class

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by Black Bart
I have used #26 over NXT and I think it looks better than NXT alone. Never used Gold Class

It's quite possible I might be taking a stab it this, this week.

[Cassman]

The Gold Class over the Collinite over the NXT worked out great. Great gloss. I think I am finished waxing for a while. I'll just use the new Eagle One WAUD after washes. Thanks again.

[Jeff Smith]

Cool,

I am actually at the moment trying Gold Class over NXT.

I just finshed applying #3 machine glaze with the PC @ setting 4 w/ a 9006 pad. Great results as I expected. Nothing spectular as far as appearance but the differences in application methods and ease of removal were quite noticable. I did get a little dusting.

You can see more commentary about how this is going in this thread I have been updating with each cup of coffee.:

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=75621#post75621

But I am gearing up for the gold Class next. Will be using the PC @ seting 3.5-4, most likely w/ a 9006 pad as well.

I'll try to post any unexpected commentary here or direct you to the thread I post them in.

[Jeff Smith]

I got done applying the GC about dusk. I was a little concerned about ending up with a look I did not care for. I love the reflectivie qualities of the #20, #21 and NXt that I have used on this thing to date. I would have hated to lose that.

The GC did not appear to have diminished this reflectivity. At least not to my untrained eye. It did appear to increase the wet look just a tad, possibly the gloss as well.

All in all I love the look. Can't say it's any better or worse than the other products previously listed that I have used. The differences are subtle but noticlable to me.

This was my first effort at applying the GC Liquid. I am so used to applying the #20, #21 & NXT, that I was applying the same wy as I apply those. I soon found just a little more product was needed. Not alot but a tad more. I could do the same size area I would do with one of the other products and would find that I barely could tell I had even applied the product. So increasing the "dosage" did away with this. I did catch myself a few times during the process where I would revert back to my old habit though.

As far as it getting on the trim. I had done a full detail on the exterior yesterday. I had applied GC Trim Detailer. This morning before starting, I broke out the masking tape. I guess because it was a fresh application of GC Trim Detailer that the masking tape would not stick. So I just ran with applying the #3 and GC. After I applied to each area, I grabbed the towel and wiped any residue off the trim immediately. After applying both products, I went back over the truck with a Supreme Shine MF. There was a spot or 2 I needed to wipe residue off of but I was surprised everything came off so nicely.

I hopr to get the second coat on tomoorow but a buddy is coming over at7:30 AM to start washing, claying, cleaning and polishing. I hope I can fit my 2nd coat in tomorrow. Glad I bought 2 DAs.

[05PhillyStang]

Very infomative posts Jeff

I'm getting ready to do winter detail when I have off on Veteran's Day. While I'm at itI'm going to experiment with some layering techniques. I'll even do some side by sides on the horizontal surfaces. I'm going to clay and clean the whole car. I'll be skipping the polishing step since I'm going more for winter protection than looks, and the paint is in excellent condition so it will still shine with the cleaned surface and wax. I have the following waxes to work with:

NXT liquid
Gold Class Paste
Cleaner/Wax Paste
#16

Is it true that NXT should not be used as the "topping" wax? Rather it should be used first then topped with something else?I think I'll to split the car into quadrants. First, I'll wax one half longways w/NXT and the other half with Cleaner/Wax. Then I'll split a "line across the roof, making two quarters NXT and 2 quarters Cleaner/Wax. Each product will be topped on one quarter with GC and the other with 16. Man, it better not rain that day!!!

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by 05PhillyStang
Very infomative posts Jeff

Is it true that NXT should not be used as the "topping" wax? Rather it should be used first then topped with something else?I think I'll to split the car into quadrants. First, I'll wax one half longways w/NXT and the other half with Cleaner/Wax. Then I'll split a "line across the roof, making two quarters NXT and 2 quarters Cleaner/Wax. Each product will be topped on one quarter with GC and the other with 16. Man, it better not rain that day!!!

I have tried NXT over #21 with great results. I have seen commments from others that NXT over a Carnuba is considered by some to be questionable. I have absolutley no experience with this so will refrain from adding any further comments. Hopefully someone with more expertise will chime in and fill us both in here.

Your proposed experiment should go without a hitch though. But, I did a simlair experiment for a 2 week period. Did each side panel up with a different wax. GC, Cleaner Wax, DC#3 and NXT. At the time, I was only into the hobby for about a month so definetly did not have a good eye for judging , but, I honestly could not tell one from the other. The only noticable difference was the cleaner wax "appeared" to give me a tad more gloss. Had I kept the experiment going for a longer period, I may have noticed other differences like durability and such. But I was looking for one product that stuck out like a sore thumb as far as looks. None of them did. They were all great appearance wise.

[BondoKing]

I am curious as to something... Why do I always read of you all putting on more than one coat of wax or wax and polish combos?? Seems odd, once the paint is sealed it is sealed... I was not aware you could build a film thickness of wax or needed to.... I read where some of you all are using one polish/sealer/wax and then another polish/wax or just plain ole wax...

Over the years doing bodywork I rarely mess with wax or sealers for that matter.. I do for my own vehicles when i take the time, but I use things that have proven to last several months with one application... Someone give me your reasons please

Matthew

[Jeff Smith]

Originally posted by BondoKing
I am curious as to something... Why do I always read of you all putting on more than one coat of wax or wax and polish combos?? Seems odd, once the paint is sealed it is sealed... I was not aware you could build a film thickness of wax or needed to.... I read where some of you all are using one polish/sealer/wax and then another polish/wax or just plain ole wax...

Over the years doing bodywork I rarely mess with wax or sealers for that matter.. I do for my own vehicles when i take the time, but I use things that have proven to last several months with one application... Someone give me your reasons please

Matthew

Speaking for myself, I am new at all this and enjoy experimenting with different products not so much for the additional protection but for the experience in seeing how it might look using my application method and on my finish. Do I honestly think I am doing much good, Not really. But I do gain experience with some of the differences in applying various products. Some of the products have their own little quirks, I like playing with one until I get the hang of it then moving on to another. I invite friend's over and we work on their cars and I when I recommend we go with a plan, I would rather base that recommendation on having a little bit of experience with the product as opposed to just running with something because "I think" that "might" do it.

I am sure come the early part of next year my exprimenting like I do will slow down. But in the meantime, I am learning quite a bit.

[Don]

Originally posted by BondoKing
I am curious as to something... Why do I always read of you all putting on more than one coat of wax or wax and polish combos?? Seems odd, once the paint is sealed it is sealed... I was not aware you could build a film thickness of wax or needed to.... I read where some of you all are using one polish/sealer/wax and then another polish/wax or just plain ole wax...

Over the years doing bodywork I rarely mess with wax or sealers for that matter.. I do for my own vehicles when i take the time, but I use things that have proven to last several months with one application... Someone give me your reasons please

Matthew

Many people, by the time they get to being active on several detailing forums, become so OC about their car that weekly waxing with multiple applications is common.

Is it a waste of product? Probably

Are there any realistic benefits? Maybe

As far as I know, no one has ever tested multiple coats or layering one sealant/wax over another against a single coat of wax/sealant.

There is validity to applying two thin coats VS one heavy coat of wax though, two thin coats is most likey to give you complete, even coverage with minimal product waste and application/removal is much easier with thin coats.

Too, many times some of the synthetic sealants leave the finish with a 'plastic' or 'sterile' look as opposed to the deep 'warm' look of a traditional carnuaba wax Or the sealant, while better protection than the carnuaba waxes, doesn't bead water the way people would like, so they apply a layer of carnuaba wax over the sealant to give then the look/water beading properties they like.

We, as detailers/enthusiasts, are a breed 180* out of sync with the rest of the car owners of the world that think a drive-through wash makes their cars look brand-new again.

It's a safe bet to say that most of us could take a car seconds after it rolled off the assembly line and point out flaws and imperfections and be just dying to 'fix' them.