m101 and orange peel?

[MicrofiberMan]

i just ordered some and i was wondering if this will get rid of orange peel at all or is that in the base coat? i bought it to get rid of some swirls that havent responded to uc, this is the last time im polishing for a while whether this stuff gets rid of it or not

[Top Gear]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

I think you're better off wet-sanding than compounding for orange peel in the clear coat. You can only do so much with a DA and compound, even M101. It will be faster by far to sand and then remove the sanding marks and haze with M101.

[The Guz]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Not going to happen with any compound.

[MicrofiberMan]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

thats ok i didnt think it would help much i dont want to wet sand the whole car over it its not that bad, the only thing thats really bothering me is the amount of rock chips on the hood and bumper, its so bad i think it should be covered in the warranty, now the sides are getting them to, the things going to look like hell in a few years at this rate. u guys think that should be covered under warranty if its way excessive? im not talking one or two here, the cars only years old

[The Guz]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Unless there is some sort of recall or TSB by the car manufacturer, I don't see why it would be covered by warranty. You are going to have to speak with place you bought the car on what is covered by the warranty.

[Top Gear]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Right, they will explain that paint is not covered, not from the manufacturer and not from your road hazzard policy or other coverage - it's cosmetic. Driving on the interstate, especially around all the big trucks, is what does it, and it's totally normal. I've touched up many of them with a dot of paint and a brush. I'm decent at it, and most of them will disappear. Some are more difficult. None of this is orange peel, though, but are called "rock chips" and "road rash". Rash areas, like ahead of the rear wheels down low at the rocker, and especially on the passenger side, is where rocks and trash brush up against the paint as flung by the front tire. That area is easier to fix, usually with a good compounding and minor touch-up. Hard rock chips on the hood, where the paint is literally chipped away to bare metal or primer, require several different skills, from painting a filling to sanding and buffing. You can hire a paint blender to fix those, say once a year or two. They just sand the area and airbrush exact-match paint and clear with hardener. The quality of their work can vary greatly, just like pro detailers, etc.

[MicrofiberMan]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Right, they will explain that paint is not covered, not from the manufacturer and not from your road hazzard policy or other coverage - it's cosmetic. Driving on the interstate, especially around all the big trucks, is what does it, and it's totally normal. I've touched up many of them with a dot of paint and a brush. I'm decent at it, and most of them will disappear. Some are more difficult. None of this is orange peel, though, but are called "rock chips" and "road rash". Rash areas, like ahead of the rear wheels down low at the rocker, and especially on the passenger side, is where rocks and trash brush up against the paint as flung by the front tire. That area is easier to fix, usually with a good compounding and minor touch-up. Hard rock chips on the hood, where the paint is literally chipped away to bare metal or primer, require several different skills, from painting a filling to sanding and buffing. You can hire a paint blender to fix those, say once a year or two. They just sand the area and airbrush exact-match paint and clear with hardener. The quality of their work can vary greatly, just like pro detailers, etc.

ok im planning on getting the hood and maybe bumper repainted, i fixed some myself but aghhh its not easy and theres to any on the hood, where do u find these paint blenders they work at autobody shops?

[Top Gear]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Look for them at your local dealers, who hire such blenders to fix new cars damaged in transport, etc, as well as wheel guys to fix scuffed wheels. Another option is Dr. Color Fix, where you spread some goo over the spots to fill them. I've gone back to fixing them, now with a paint pen you can find at the auto stores, and I have one matching my painted wheels, too. The larger chips need some of the clear provided in the pen, on top of the dot layers of paint, but the pen makes it easy to fix the tiny ones and rash areas. A minor sanding and compounding, the Sun and washing over time, etc, further refine and level the spots and I never see them again, except for the really big chip fixes. There's a great thread here somewhere from Mr. Stoops describing how to do this in a very thorough way, but often in the real world, it's too hot and humid for me to spend an hour on each individual chip

[drumdan]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Maybe with a car pro denim pad.

[DasBurninator]

Re: m101 and orange peel?

Look for them at your local dealers, who hire such blenders to fix new cars damaged in transport, etc, as well as wheel guys to fix scuffed wheels. Another option is Dr. Color Fix, where you spread some goo over the spots to fill them. I've gone back to fixing them, now with a paint pen you can find at the auto stores, and I have one matching my painted wheels, too. The larger chips need some of the clear provided in the pen, on top of the dot layers of paint, but the pen makes it easy to fix the tiny ones and rash areas. A minor sanding and compounding, the Sun and washing over time, etc, further refine and level the spots and I never see them again, except for the really big chip fixes. There's a great thread here somewhere from Mr. Stoops describing how to do this in a very thorough way, but often in the real world, it's too hot and humid for me to spend an hour on each individual chip

Pretty much this. Although I prefer touch up paint with a small brush to fill in chips

Maybe with a car pro denim pad.

These work decently well, but I would not recommend them to someone new to polishing.