Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

[Selectchoice]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

M105 should be able to. It will really depend on the particular paint on your car and the DA you have. You'd need to do a test spot to be sure. But UP would be far too light to remove sanding marks.

[Serf27]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

Yea. I didn't even attempt the UP after it took so long for one spot.
Well the paint is about a week old. So I'm hoping it removes the haze and the scratches.
The buffer I'm going to use is a rotary one. I think I have a DA now and it just doesn't spin fast enough.

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

I've removed 2000 grit sanding marks with a DA (8mm throw) and a W-7207 maroon cutting pad with M105 fairly easily in the past. Obviously depends on the particular paint but it can be done.

I can usually get rid of 1000 grit with M105 and a microfiber pad on a PC.

The link shows where I got rid of 1000 with Ultimate Compound on a PC, and a green hex logic pad, as well as the procedure I used to do it . Obviously, no sane person would ever do that, but I like experimenting, and the paint on my car is checked, oxidized and faded (complete failure) anyways, that I use it for a test bed...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/album.php?albumid=900

[DasBurninator]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

M105 would remove 2k grit marks on a rotating variable speed buffer right?
i find 2k to be just enough to remove orange peel and leave little scratches that can be buffed out.
The m01 is not able to do that I guess.
Tried Meguiars ultra polish and just takes too long and too much pressure behind the buffer to work.

Yes. M105 should remove them. I was suggesting M100 because it is a little easier to work with than M105.

Ultimate Polish won't put a dent in 2000grit sanding scratches, it is a finishing polish. Ultimate Compound on the other hand would give you much better results. it sits a couple steps below M105 in cut but is much more friendly to work with.

I agree with the statements above. If you aren't experienced with a rotary and a wool pad, then you should stick to a DA with something like the microfiber cutting pads. Follow up with UP or M205 on a foam finishing pad.

Based on the description of your current machine (on/off only). You have a wax spreader, not a polisher. Totally different than a DA.
When you say variable speed, you aren't narrowing it down for us on here. Can you give us an exact model of what you ordered? It will help us to give you the best recommendation possible.

[The Guz]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

Yes. M105 should remove them. I was suggesting M100 because it is a little easier to work with than M105.

So very true. M100 also costs a few dollars less. I've gone to M100 or M101 over M105. I actually don't own M105 anymore because the other two are just that much better in terms of working time alone.

[Serf27]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

Drumdan that is crazy you got rid of 1k marks with UP. I cannot view the link because I'm not a member. But I will register to view it. Must've been a lot of work. Thanks for the reply and link.
Dasburninator, thanks for the reply too and yes, the tool I have does say waxer. I have used it on UP but just takes too long.
Okay. I will be getting some m100 then and micro fiber pad. Is there a different between following it with m205 or UP? If there's not a whole different the UP is only $8 compared to the m205 $30. But if there is a difference, I'll get the m205 at this point.
Here is the buffer I am looking to get.

http://m.harborfreight.com/7-in-10-amp-heavy-duty-digital-variable-speed-polisher-69696.html

or this one

http://m.harborfreight.com/7-in-10-amp-variable-speed-polisher-60626.html

Thr Guz, thanks for the reply and info. I will probably end up getting m100 to cut and ____ to polish?
Nice. Fast working time and quality is what I'm looking for. I can't wait to use it on the car. After some practice of course.

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

Ultimate Polish won't put a dent in 2000grit sanding scratches, it is a finishing polish.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/album.php?albumid=900&pictureid=5009

I've also removed 1500 with UP on a blue Rupes microfiber cutting disc.

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

Drumdan that is crazy you got rid of 1k marks with UP. I cannot view the link because I'm not a member. But I will register to view it. Must've been a lot of work.

To be accurate, it was 1000 grit with UC, and 2000 grit with UP. If you're on FB, I posted it to the Meguiar's page too.

Actually, it's wasn't any more work than any other vehicle I did paint corrections on.

I just used these products way outside of their design parameters to see how far I can test the limits of the machine, the product, the pad, and myself.

[Serf27]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

To be accurate, it was 1000 grit with UC, and 2000 grit with UP.If you're on FB, I posted it to the Meguiar's page too.

Actually, it's wasn't any more work than any other vehicle I did paint corrections on.

I just used these products way outside of their design parameters to see how far I can test the limits of the machine, the product, the pad, and myself.

I will look it up on FB then. I registered to autogeek and still can't view the links.
correction to my previous posts. I removed 2k grit haze but the scratches were still visible at some angles with the UP.
You must be using some good pads and machine if it didn't take any extra work. With the UP I had to put some good pressure behind it and stifle didn't work.

[DasBurninator]

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http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...pictureid=5009

I've also removed 1500 with UP on a blue Rupes microfiber cutting disc.

For pushing the limits, yeah I can see it doing that with the right pad and right machine. But lets be realistic and take time and effort into consideration. Do you want to try and buff out an entire car that has just been wetsanded with only UP? Probably not.

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

I agree that it sounds like you have the traditional orbital buffer. There is a thread somewhere on this site where someone got some really nice work done with one of those, and Ultimate Compound. It is possible, and will take some time.

If you can get a good d/a it will give you a ton of options, and probably the most flexibility as far as correction/finishing goes.

If it were me, I'd grab the Ultimate twins, unless I was in a body shop environment, then I'd opt for M100/M205. Like many others, I've switched my heavy cut to M100, or UC - away from M105.

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

For pushing the limits, yeah I can see it doing that with the right pad and right machine. But lets be realistic and take time and effort into consideration. Do you want to try and buff out an entire car that has just been wetsanded with only UP? Probably not.

I just wanted to see if it could be done. It took to passed to eliminate the texture, but I find that my biggest problem is the residue build up during the buffing cycle. I don't get the build up with the more rigid white, orange, and yellow pads.

The other factor that seems critical for me is the amount of working product on the pad.

Personally, I sand to 3000, and cut with UC on the green pad with the PC.

[Serf27]

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Thanks drums an. Ultimate twins being ultimate polish and ultimate compound right?
I may go to get M100 if the store has it. Last time I was there I didn't see it, but I wasn't looking for it.
Is the UC the product that goes side by side with UP? I have used that. And it didn't cut as fast as I was thought it would or it hardly cut away at the 2k scratches.
for now I will have to get a plain orbital buffer. The DA is out of price range

[Serf27]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

The other factor that seems critical for me is the amount of working product on the pad.

Personally, I sand to 3000, and cut with UC on the green pad with the PC.

What do you mean by working the product on the pad?
and is the the UC you use?

http://www.detailing.com/store/meguiars-ultimate-compound.html?gclid=CMay8qaNnckCFdgKgQodgbAEsw

do you think it will remove 2k scratches?

[drumdan]

Re: Meguiars Medium Cut Cleaner #1 highest grit for it?

I will look it up on FB then. I registered to autogeek and still can't view the links.
correction to my previous posts. I removed 2k grit haze but the scratches were still visible at some angles with the UP.
You must be using some good pads and machine if it didn't take any extra work. With the UP I had to put some good pressure behind it and stifle didn't work.

Yeah, I had to go two section cycles to eliminate the texture. I was on speed 5 on the Porter Cable 7424xp, using a blue hex logic pad (5.5"), which are made by Buff and Shine. I don't use much pressure at all. I describe it as "just under free spin".