First time clay baring

[Havinfun75]

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Sweet Davey thanks. As soon as I get home I'm gonna start my shopping there and see what it looks like.

Mike

[davey g-force]

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Lol... Know what you mean!

Autogeek has all the items you mentioned. If you become a member, they frequently have sales, which they will let you know about.

[Havinfun75]

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Well I finally have free time. So I am going to order my supplies. I am going to be getting 4 pads of each (cutting, polishing, and waxing). Some Meguiar's Ultimate Polish, backing plate and a wrench. I was just wondering if anyone knew a good place to get all this. Should I just use Meguiar's on line or does anyone know of a site that migh have "package deals" I AM going to look around but it's going to be about an hour before I can,, and I figured I'd see what you all think. Sorry for all the silly questions. Lol. But I feel like a kid at Christmas again

Mike

[Don]

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As far as the backing plates go, I think they're pretty much equal, I just happen to have the Meguiar's plate, I ordered it the same time I ordered the thin pads.

[Havinfun75]

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Thank you Don. I can't wait to get am my new "tools" lol. I do love Meguiar's Ultimate line so far so I will defentally go with the UP as your suggested. And thank you for the info on pads and backing plate. One question, is there a difference in backing plates. Like is one better than another? And I will defentally be staying loyal to the Meguiar's brand regarding pads and other products. I remember my dad using Meguiar's products and it's just a cool memory for me so maybe that is why I love them. Lol plus they work so well and easy to use. So I should just look for "thin" pads as you suggested or do I need more info as far as type of pad goes. I haven't had time to search for these items yet but when I have time this evening (I HOPE) I will be ON IT

MIKE

[Don]

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Congratulations on your new acquisition. You'll find that keeping your car in top shape is going to be much easier and faster now. Don't worry about hurting your paint with the PC, you would have to use the tool like a hammer to do so. Since you're on a Meguiar's forum, the first products I'd suggest are from the Ultimate Line: Compound, Polish and Wax (liquid or paste, your choice).

You can order a new wrench from Porter Cable and it's only a few dollars.

You'll want to get a 5" backing plate and Meguiar's 5" thin pads, these things are awesome, you'll probably want AT LEAST 4 each of the cutting and polishing pads and maybe 1 or 2 finishing (waxing) pads.

Meguiar's also has several 'How To' videos on the web about machine polishing, which is a good place to start getting an idea of the proper way to use a PC.

Good Luck and have fun.

[Havinfun75]

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Hello everyone.

First i I would like to thank Michael Stoops for that info. I guess I though a fresh wax would make my car impervious to some air borne containments for at least a little while. Now that I have learned some actual good advice and knowledge from everyone on here and from many MANY on line resources, I now know how silly that really was. Especially since I am talking about a daily driver that doesn't even get to "sleep" in a garage at night and I am in the hight of pollen season. Now for the the reason I am here again. My cousin just gave me a PorterCable 7424!!

It is just the machine and whatever backing plate it has on it. My cousin told me the wrench used to change the backing plate is gone. My question is what kind of stuff should I buy for it? Besides the wrench? What pads would be good to use? I plan on just using a polish like Meguiar's UP and waxing with it as my car is new and being white it does not have, or at least SHOW any visible SWIRLS or major defects. The worst defect I have found is some staining. As in slight spots that will not come off with just a clay and wash and you have to put your face right on the car to even see them.

Any help on products or equipment is greatly needed and appreciated. Also is this a good machine?

Thank so much
Mike

[Michael Stoops]

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Another great thread where the community steps up and helps out the "new guy" with a whole list of Q&A!!


Just a couple of notes here:

Waxing, or any other sort of care on plastics, metals, etc: Keep this in mind - the substrate is nowhere near as important as the top coat material you are working on. For example, the newest 5 Series BMWs have body panels that range from steel to aluminum to composite to urethane, but they are all covered in the same paint. Therefore, regardless what's under the paint, all panels get treated exactly the same way. Every modern car on the road today has urethane bumper covers and, with the exception of some SUVs and light trucks, they are all painted. Even your typical "alloy wheel" is painted. They aren't bare metal, so since you're working on paint it doesn't matter if the wheel's structure is aluminum or steel - if it's painted, treat it like paint. Most carbon fiber pieces these days have a clear coat on them - it's basically just paint so treat it like paint.

How long does the positive effect of claying last? Until the next time the car is exposed to something that could heavily contaminate it, or it's exposed to something sticky enough that it grabs hold quickly. That could, quite literally, be the day after you do a full detail. Or it could be a year. It all depends on exposure. Same goes for swirl marks and other below surface defects. You could spend a three day weekend dialing your ride to total perfection, then take it through a really lousy tunnel wash with old rotating brushes and it's swirl city all over again. What all that means is that maintenance is as important, if not more so, than all the corrective measures you take to make the car look great in the first place. In our Saturday Detailing 101 classes everyone wants to know how to remove swirls and other defects from their paint. We believe that the most important parts of the class program are the washing and maintaining sections. Those steps are, after all, the times when you run the greatest risk of creating swirls in the first place. If you don't create them, or at least minimize them, you don't have to fix them. Simple in concept, a bit trickier in execution!

[The Guz]

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That's great news. It's a good maintenance product for ultimate wax.

[Havinfun75]

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It could possibly be surface contaminants from the day to day drive. The pollen doesn't help. You could use some ultimate quik wax to give the UW a boost after washing or as a drying aid.

@ The Guz. Thank you for telling me that I could use Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Wax to help dry the car. Not only is it a great way to dry the car spot free but it defentally helps "recharge" the wax job. I think this is the best addition to my washing routine since I started using two buckets. Thanks again buddy

Mike

[Havinfun75]

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Well I feel silly now. It says it right in your signature that Blueline said it..lol oh well credit to both of ya then!!
Sorry all for my late reply. Work has been crazy. But thank you. I had NO IDEA That I could use Meguiar's quick wax while the car was still wet to help dry it. I can't wait to try it now and see how it goes. And while I didnt think I needed to re wax it yet it's good to know that I could do it without risking wax buildup or anything else negative happening. It's good to have someone else's opnion on the matter. Also I now fully believe that it is mostly a pollen problem. I took my car in for its first service @ just under 3000 miles. While I was there I looked around on thier lot. Well there was this row of Bran new BLACK 2015 Mustangs. OH MY GOD they were so caked in pollen they seriously looked green. I mean I don't know how they are going to keep their cars clean. Until the end of this "pollen season" anyway.

Thank again all. I am so loving this community
Mike

[davey g-force]

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lol... they're not my words, but yeah I could really relate to it too... So much so that I had to make it my signature!

Credit to Blueline

[Havinfun75]

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I almost forgot.. @ Davy g-force. I have been meaning to tell ya that I LOVE your signature. It is so true. I owned one black car in my life. It was a 94 Mustang GT. When it was 100% clean and shiny it was beautiful. Nothing can compare with a perfectly clean and waxed, scratch free black car in my opinion. However keeping a daily driver in that shape is close to impossible.

thanks again
Mike

[Havinfun75]

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Sorry all for my late reply. Work has been crazy. But thank you. I had NO IDEA That I could use Meguiar's quick wax while the car was still wet to help dry it. I can't wait to try it now and see how it goes. And while I didnt think I needed to re wax it yet it's good to know that I could do it without risking wax buildup or anything else negative happening. It's good to have someone else's opnion on the matter. Also I now fully believe that it is mostly a pollen problem. I took my car in for its first service @ just under 3000 miles. While I was there I looked around on thier lot. Well there was this row of Bran new BLACK 2015 Mustangs. OH MY GOD they were so caked in pollen they seriously looked green. I mean I don't know how they are going to keep their cars clean. Until the end of this "pollen season" anyway.

Thank again all. I am so loving this community
Mike

[davey g-force]

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And can I re wax it with my paste wax allready or is 3 weeks too soon?

As Guz said, you probably don't need to re-wax. But it certainly won't hurt anything if you want to do it again.