DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

[tiSS'er]

Hey guys, I have been using UC with 205 on my 06 Onyx Black Lexus with very good results. However, there have been some deeper defects and bird droppings which I have had difficulty removing with this system. I am using a Griots DA with Griots orange polishing pads and black finishing pads, and I can't really complain with the results. As far as some of the deeper defects, after several passes they are removing slower than I would like. After reading everything on the DAMF system, it seems it will cut very quickly with D300, and I can finish with foam and 205. The DAMF system is quite appealing due to the reduced project time, and the reduced amount of product (foam pads specifically) required. I have yet to try 105 or a more abrasive pad, frankly, I'm not sure which pad would be a good choice, for removing the deeper defects. After seeing all the posts on the DAMF, it seems that it is a phenominal system, or should I try 105? The beauty of the paint on my car, is that it hides defects much better than other black cars I have seen. There are still quite a few defects which can be seen under artificial light (high powered LED), but are nearly invisible in the sun. I want to try the DAMF, but not sure if I will get much better results that what UC/205 is providing. Thoughts?

[The Guz]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

D300 and the microfiber cutting discs work great at removing some of the tougher defects as well as on cars with hard clear coat. You could try 105 first on a foam pad to see if that removes them. If not then you can invest in the microfiber cutting disc and D300.

This place sells smaller bottle sizes of 105 and D300.

http://www.autodetailingsolutions.net/meguiars.html

[davey g-force]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

You've done a great job on the car so far!

You could either buy some M105 and a more agressive pad and try that (may or may not work), or you could just go to straight the MF cutting disc + D300.

[tiSS'er]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

You've done a great job on the car so far!

You could either buy some M105 and a more agressive pad and try that (may or may not work), or you could just go to straight the MF cutting disc + D300.

Thanks, that is my internal debate, stick with what I know (foam) or try something new. I'm impressed by the reviews I have seem of the DAMF, but wonder if I will truly get much better results than what I have already had. I thought I read somewhere that the read Meguiars DA pad is not a good option with 105 on a DA. What would be a good pad to use with 105, my existing Griots orange pads?

[The Guz]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

Who makes the orange pad you are using? If it's a cutting pad like an LC orange flat pad then 105 would be a good choice to use with the orange pad. Just be sure to foolow up with UP or 205 to refine the finish and remove the hazing from 105. If you still need more correction you can go with the MF cutting pad.

[davey g-force]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

Thanks, that is my internal debate, stick with what I know (foam) or try something new. I'm impressed by the reviews I have seem of the DAMF, but wonder if I will truly get much better results than what I have already had. I thought I read somewhere that the read Meguiars DA pad is not a good option with 105 on a DA. What would be a good pad to use with 105, my existing Griots orange pads?

You're right - the Meg's burgundy pad is not a good choice with M105. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Griot's pads, I was just saying that if the orange pad you are using is not that aggressive, or they make another pad with more cut, go for that. If not, just go DAMF.

You can buy just the MF cutting pad if you like (if cost is a factor) - your UC will work with that.

[Daniel Kinder]

Re: DA microfiber vs. UC/205 and foam

to MOL tiSS

Michael & davey are both fantasic guys and know there stuff but I myself like to test and experiment with pads and technique's alot and personally I would go with M105 like they recommended but here's where I would switch it up a bit. Try the M105 with a polishing pad first, because you can add the aggressiveness with speed of the machine/ applying pressure to the pad/ arm speed and a 2nd or 3rd application if need be.

Remember! always least aggressive product or in this case technique to get the job done and to remove as little paint as possible. And if that isn't doing the job, then move up to a light cutting pad and slow down the speed & pressure. This is where test spot's play a key role in dialing in your system!

BY THE WAY, NICE CAR & THE FINISH LOOKS GREAT!!!