Another Myth Buster Type Question

[goldduster360]

I am a car crazy guy when it comes to information and would like to know what the following ingredient listed on a vinyl protectant is. It is called Organomodified Polymeric Emulsion. It seems like a generic description that does not really reveal what the component is. I have heard all the hype about avoiding silicone based products and don't buy into that myth, but just wanted someone in the know to confirm my suspicion of what that mystery ingredient most likely is.

[goldduster360]

Re: Another Myth Buster Type Question

Nobody? I am going to take a guess that an Organomodified Polymeric Emulsion is a type of Polysiloxane.

[Detailing by M]

Re: Another Myth Buster Type Question

what product are you talking about?
Also you can call megs directly and they will tell you

[MikeFord]

Re: Another Myth Buster Type Question

Tried a google for "Organomodified Polymeric Emulsion" and I mostly come up with stuff related to Aerospace 303 protectant, and they specifically claim it is not a plysiloxane, at least as well as I understood the discussions that turned up. Some discussions seemed to have knowledgeable chemist type people, but they basically said everybody "hides" the true formulation so you can't really tell what is in it and what it does.

[goldduster360]

Re: Another Myth Buster Type Question

Tried a google for "Organomodified Polymeric Emulsion" and I mostly come up with stuff related to Aerospace 303 protectant, and they specifically claim it is not a plysiloxane, at least as well as I understood the discussions that turned up. Some discussions seemed to have knowledgeable chemist type people, but they basically said everybody "hides" the true formulation so you can't really tell what is in it and what it does.

Mike, yes the product was Aerospace 303 protectant, I did not want to start a product bashing thread but do find it a little frustrating when trying to compare products with all the concealed information regarding products like this. I am not a chemist, but based on my internet based research, there are two types of materials, organic and inorganic. In order to be organomodified, the item being modified has to be inorganic, hence Siloxane, an inorganic substance. As most may already know Siloxane is the family from which all Silicones come from. Pretty much the only thing it could be is an Organomodified Polysiloxane, a silicone. Further, my research revealed that Organomodifed Polysiloxanes are preferred in the metal processing industries for their anti-foaming properties and the ability to be easily washed of the metallic surfaces before further processing such as heat treating. Apparantly paint shops are not the only place silicones are not welcome. Since organomodified Polysiloxanes are more easily washed off than Polydimethylsiloxanes I would surmise they do not hold up to the elements as well since they are more easily flushed off with water. Kind of hard to believe the superior UV protection of such a product if it is easily washed off. The less greasy feel comes from the weaker surface tension I suspect. Also, what organic substance is being added? If it's organic, most likely some type of petroleum based product, but once it becomes part of the siloxane chain you don't call it that. Again, not a chemist, but would appreciate the knowledge of any product I use on my vehicles. I have 6 of them, so if I make a mistake it gets repeated 6 times. I have been slowly switching over to Meguiars products because not only do they do as advertised, they smell good, can't stand the stench of some of the other car care products out there.