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  • #16
    Re: Help!! Confused on Black Paint

    Originally posted by Jeff Burrows View Post
    .. I would do two coats of GC, it will not hurt...
    Yes it will.
    It will actually remove some of the first coat and not "top" anything. So your left with less wax on your paint then if you would have left it alone.
    This is a proven scientific fact.
    Also a waste of time and money.

    I have never ever waxed a car twice and never will.
    The shine comes from polishing out all of the defects, making the paint as flat as possible to reflect as much light as possible. Like a mirror, flat and shined to perfection and mirrors have no wax on them at all.

    Wax or a sealant shows off your polish job and protects the paint.
    You can wax an unpolished car as many times as you want and it will still look like crud because you didn't polish it.
    The work is in the polishing, waxing is the easy part of the job, I usually do shots while I wax.

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    • #17
      Re: Help!! Confused on Black Paint

      I know there are some waxes Meguiars has specifically made to have multiple coats, #26 for example. For the reason of more even coverage and a little better protection I have done 2 coats before of #21 and GC. Is it because the polishing oils in GC take off the first coat? If a vehicle is waxed ever week the protection is far better than if waxed every 6 months. As long as the wax has dried and is wiped off I have not a seen a problem. What are the details of multiple coats of wax that cause problems and is it just polishing waxes (GC) or all waxes like #21 sealers. Thanks!
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      • #18
        Re: Help!! Confused on Black Paint

        Originally posted by Please Wash Me Detailing View Post
        ["Wax topping"] will actually remove some of the first coat and not "top" anything. So your left with less wax on your paint then if you would have left it alone. This is a proven scientific fact. Also a waste of time and money.

        I have never ever waxed a car twice and never will. The shine comes from polishing out all of the defects, making the paint as flat as possible to reflect as much light as possible. Like a mirror, flat and shined to perfection and mirrors have no wax on them at all.

        Wax or a sealant shows off your polish job and protects the paint. You can wax an unpolished car as many times as you want and it will still look like crud because you didn't polish it. The work is in the polishing, waxing is the easy part of the job, I usually do shots while I wax.
        Quoted for Truth

        I see a lot of comments here and there by folks getting this wrong. Thanks PWMD
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        • #19
          Re: Help!! Confused on Black Paint

          Originally posted by Jeff Burrows View Post
          I know there are some waxes Meguiar's has specifically made to have multiple coats, #26 for example. For the reason of more even coverage and a little better protection I have done 2 coats before of #21 and GC. Is it because the polishing oils in GC take off the first coat? If a vehicle is waxed ever week the protection is far better than if waxed every 6 months. As long as the wax has dried and is wiped off I have not a seen a problem. What are the details of multiple coats of wax that cause problems and is it just polishing waxes (GC) or all waxes like #21 sealers. Thanks!
          This is how it was explained to me. Carnauba Wax is the hardest wax out there and it works great as a paint protectant and enhancer. That is why it is in just about every single wax out there.
          With CW being so hard the chemists have to use solvents and the like to make it "Butter Smooth" as so many people say.
          So with your "Wax" having carnauba in it, it will also have solvents.
          So after your "first" coat of wax is dry you put another coat of "wax" on it. Well actually putting the SOLVENTS BACK INTO THE FIRST COAT OF WAX thereforer REMOVEING some of the first coat of wax.

          Now some people will say "I use a Synthetic" Well there's solvents it that to.

          The solvents in wax/sealents will remove the wax/sealent.
          Here's the test to prove it.
          Go wax a spot on your car with what ever wax you choice.
          Let it set there for a few days to where you can't remove it with a simple wipe.
          Now put the same wax/sealent on the spot and what do you find? The rock hard spot is now gone.
          "LIKE REMOVES LIKE"

          So now your paint will have less wax on it, you've done twice the work, spend twice the money and did less "waxing" if you would have just left the first coat alone.

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          • #20
            Re: Help!! Confused on Black Paint

            It sounds like you are on the right track. At what speed are you applying the UC and UP? Just remember to slow down with the DA, up & down and side to side, working a 16" x 16" area. My personal preference is liquid NXT on metallic paint and ULW on non-metallic paint. Use the Black Wax when not compounding.
            Last edited by 1994Gen1L; Sep 1, 2013, 06:57 AM. Reason: content

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