ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

[Murr1525]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

I did the whole car at once, then right away started removing. Kept a spray bottle of water near by, and just kept my towel damp. Came off real easy. (apply super thin of course)

[ChpStcksRlz]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

Rather than apply it and leave it on overnight before wipe off, go the other way with this: apply it in a very thin coat to just a panel or two and then wipe off right away. Continue around the car like this until finished. If you see any unevenness at all, mist a very small amount of plain water onto a microfiber towel and lightly wipe over the surface. That should knock down any streaking you may see. If you end up not being happy with the product, don't hesitate to contact our Customer Care Center at 800.347.5700 for a replacement.

So there isn't a curing time for the ultimate wax? It's just wax on and then remove it right after a panel or two?

[Murr1525]

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No drying time.

[Michael Stoops]

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Curing time and drying time are two different things. Drying time is the time difference between application of product and removal of the haze or residue. Some waxes, like Pinnacle Souveran and Wolfgang Fusion, have virtually no dry time at all and are essentially wipe on, wipe off products. Cure time is the time difference between wiping off that residue or haze and when the polymers of a synthetic sealant are fully crosslinked and bonded. True "curing" is more of a synthetic products thing than a carnauba wax thing, although there is still some level of curing with those types of products.

Ultimate Wax is a very unique formulation for Meguiar's in that the chemistry of this product, especially in liquid form, is vastly different from anything else we make. That means with the liquid you can apply to a panel at a time and wipe off as you go. The paste, due to ingredients used to make it a paste, behaves in a more traditional manner and should be allowed to dry fully before wipe off. Even then, the paste version won't show much of a haze, but it will pass the swipe test, whereas the liquid version really doesn't work with the swipe test.

[tguil]

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I have used both liquid NXT 2.0 and liquid Ultimate on both of my trucks. Applied both to the whole truck with a pc and came back right after applying to the whole truck with a microfiber cloth to remove the product. No streaking, no problems. What am I doing wrong?

Tom

[imz4n]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

Actually I use nxt as the final coat on my silver and Ult-w on cars of/with color I use nxt on white as well.

[polaris]

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Has anybody tried ultimate wax topped with m26 and what were your results?

[tguil]

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IMO, the best "topping" for either Ultimate of NXT is Ultimate Quick Wax. It really is quick and easy and leaves a shine/gloss that can't be beat. I haven't used #26 for years. That and #16 used to be my "go to" waxes. You simply cannot beat the "new stuff". Been messin' with detailing for over 50 years.

Tom

[wifpd4]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

IMO, the best "topping" for either Ultimate of NXT is Ultimate Quick Wax. It really is quick and easy and leaves a shine/gloss that can't be beat. I haven't used #26 for years. That and #16 used to be my "go to" waxes. You simply cannot beat the "new stuff". Been messin' with detailing for over 50 years.

Tom

Question and a comment...

Do you wait the 12-24 hour cure time before using UQW?
Can't wait to try the 2012 spray products on top of UW!!

[davey g-force]

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I have used both liquid NXT 2.0 and liquid Ultimate on both of my trucks. Applied both to the whole truck with a pc and came back right after applying to the whole truck with a microfiber cloth to remove the product. No streaking, no problems. What am I doing wrong?

Tom

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say your trucks are silver, white or a light color?

[tguil]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

I usually use the UQW after the first wash following a wax job. Never right after wax job.

Yep, Two white trucks. Drove nothing but black for thirty years. Finally got smart a couple of years ago. But, I never had trouble with NXT on my black Dodge Ram. I usually use two microfiber polishing cloths. I go over the whole truck once with one and then come back and do the whole truck again with the second. It does take some muscle power, but nothing like good old #16. Now that stuff streaked.

Tom

[davey g-force]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

Ok, thought so

Streaking is more noticeable on black and very hard to notice on white. It could be that you do get some streaking with UW but you just can't see it.

Either way, I suppose if you can't see it, it doesn't matter right?

[Carbo]

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After reading some of the posts in this thread, I am having the same issues as UW with the streaking, except I'm using Nxt 2.0. I have a classic car that was painted bc/cc 5 years ago in black. After doing some paint correction, I apply Nxt and I can never get that stuff not to streak. I've let it sit anywhere from 15 minutes to a few hours. Each and every time when I wipe it off it streaks and appears to remain wet. The wax never dries and never passes the swipe test. I believe I'm putting it on in thin layers but should I maybe let it sit overnight?

This is the reason I was looking to switch to maybe UW but if streaking is a problem there as well maybe I should go to M21. What are your thoughts?

[jfelbab]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

After reading some of the posts in this thread, I am having the same issues as UW with the streaking, except I'm using Nxt 2.0. I have a classic car that was painted bc/cc 5 years ago in black. After doing some paint correction, I apply Nxt and I can never get that stuff not to streak. I've let it sit anywhere from 15 minutes to a few hours. Each and every time when I wipe it off it streaks and appears to remain wet. The wax never dries and never passes the swipe test. I believe I'm putting it on in thin layers but should I maybe let it sit overnight?

This is the reason I was looking to switch to maybe UW but if streaking is a problem there as well maybe I should go to M21. What are your thoughts?

NXT 2.0 and M21 2.0 are virtually identical products. I don't get any streaking with them when applied very thinly. I'd ask if you prepped the paint prior to applying these? Maybe try a paint cleaner first then apply the NXT. UW (liquid) is known to streak occasionally but if you use it as a wipe-on/wipe-off product this is not an issue. UW (paste) is slightly different and doesn't tend to streak, but it will stain trim while the liquid does not.

I prefer the look of UW but that is just a natter of taste. To my eyes UW leaves a deeper, darker look while NXT and M21 leave more reflectivity. The differences are subtle. UW offers a slicker feel and the look and slickness lasts much longer IME.


One old school trick to remove streaking that I've used since the days of Blue Coral and Simonize (early 1960's) is to dampen a towel with a mist of water and wipe the finish down then gently re-buff with a dry towel. This seems to level the wax or sealant and makes the streaks vanish.

[Carbo]

Re: ulitmate wax vs nxt 2.0

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NXT 2.0 and M21 2.0 are virtually identical products. I don't get any streaking with them when applied very thinly. I'd ask if you prepped the paint prior to applying these? Maybe try a paint cleaner first then apply the NXT. UW (liquid) is known to streak occasionally but if you use it as a wipe-on/wipe-off product this is not an issue. UW (paste) is slightly different and doesn't tend to streak, but it will stain trim while the liquid does not.

I prefer the look of UW but that is just a natter of taste. To my eyes UW leaves a deeper, darker look while NXT and M21 leave more reflectivity. The differences are subtle. UW offers a slicker feel and the look and slickness lasts much longer IME.


One old school trick to remove streaking that I've used since the days of Blue Coral and Simonize (early 1960's) is to dampen a towel with a mist of water and wipe the finish down then gently re-buff with a dry towel. This seems to level the wax or sealant and makes the streaks vanish.

Thanks Jim. To answer your question about prep, I do prep the vehicle. Since it's a classic and it's not driven very often, I don't have to wash it very often. But when I do, I normally hit it with either M80 or M205 for light defects, or if I have some heavier defects I'll do the M83 and M80 or the M105 and M205 combo. I've been experimenting with both combos and have been getting pretty good results with both.

I'll try the wet cloth technique next time I wax. However, I just want to make sure I'm getting this across correctly. After wiping off the wax, some of it remains on the car and appears to still be wet. Is this correct in saying it's streaking or is this something else?