Will I notice much from Ultimate Wax?

[SVT Lightning]

Re: Will I notice much from Ultimate Wax?

95% of your "shine" is achieved in the prep work

[umi000]

Re: Will I notice much from Ultimate Wax?

Ouch on the seat issue. Whats up MEGS?

You guys wouldn't wax then seal right? So why use a cleaner wax then a sealant? The polymers of the sealant wont bond to a waxed surface. Am I right?

If the manufacturer says that you can (and as far as I know, Meguiar's has always been of the opinion that you can top their products with one other), why wouldn't you?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Will I notice much from Ultimate Wax?

Ouch on the seat issue. Whats up MEGS?

You guys wouldn't wax then seal right? So why use a cleaner wax then a sealant? The polymers of the sealant wont bond to a waxed surface. Am I right?

If the manufacturer says that you can (and as far as I know, Meguiar's has always been of the opinion that you can top their products with one other), why wouldn't you?

While it is commonly stated on other forums that a polymer sealant will not bond to anything but paint, we have always stated that our products are all cross compatible with each other. In fact, a recent discussion with our VP of R&D (ie, head chemist) taught us that even an existing coat of a pure polish such as M07 or Deep Crystal Polish can actually enhance the ability of a polymer to cross link and bond since the pure polish fills in the fine pores (or fissures, or texture, or whatever term you wish to use to describe the surface of the paint) and allows the polymers to lay flatter over the surface.

But we have also stated numerous times in the past that if you're using someone else's synthetic/polymer sealant and they insist that the paint be completely free of any other product in order for their product to bond properly, then we recommend that you follow that manufacturer's directions. Never use the directions of one manufacturer's products with another product (unless, of course, they happen to coincide) because it can get you into trouble. We see this with some compounds and polishes when someone is used to using a product that should be worked until it's all but gone from the surface; they transition to our compounds/polishes but fail to read our directions, then they complain the product is dusty or hard to remove or they're marring the surface. Consequently, they then give a negative review of our product. But if someone is used to using our products as they should be used (ie, wipe off while still wet) and then transitions to another brand, one that should worked until all but gone, but they try to wipe off too soon they end up complaining about that product. So, follow the directions for the specific product you're using.

But back to combining sealants and waxes. Yes, it is most common, even with our products, for people to lay down the sealant first and then the carnauba wax on top of it. But it's also pretty common for them to use a pure polish before the sealant. Usually, though, their argument for the particular wax being used over the sealant is that they want the long term protection of the sealant but the visual appearance of the carnauba, plus the carnauba won't last as long anyway so it becomes sort of a sacrificial layer above the sealant. None are right and none are wrong. There are a million ways to combine this and everyone has their personal preferences based on ease of use, appearance, longevity, etc. As long as you're following the directions of the manufacturer, we say feel free to mix and match and do what works best for you. And if that means using just a sealant or just a carnauba, great. After all, you don't really need both of them anyway.