NXT Generation 2.0 Liquid Wax Rocks!!

[RGP]

Re: NXT Generation 2.0 Liquid Wax Rocks!!

Who cares? A few weeks is all I can last before I gotta wax my Miata. Only takes an hour...

You'd think we were using the old Blue Coral that was an all day, or all weekend project; particularly the little glass jar of sealer which was akin to buffing off slow drying enamel...

[AeroCleanse]

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Well in that case, I'll save my dollars and not experiment w/ Opti-Seal since I already use, and am pleased with NXT .

I looked at Opti-Seal and Ultima Paint Guard Plus...I went for the UPGP, because it was cheaper over at Autogeek.net

[cardriver]

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Well in that case, I'll save my dollars and not experiment w/ Opti-Seal since I already use, and am pleased with NXT .

[mattaleca]

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I'm in love with M21 v2.0 it seems to wipe off better and spreads easier with the DA than NXT. But "To Each His Own".

[akimel]

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The question whether Opt-Seal can be used as topper was recently discussed over at Detailing World. The creator of Opt-Seal was quoted as follows:

Thank you for bringing this question to the forum. I can not speak about other brands and I limit my reply to Optimum line and specifically Opti-Seal. I am not sure where water is entering into this discussion since there is no water in Opti-Seal. Opti-Seal is a highly concentrated formula containing sealant polymers dissolved in a solvent. Once it is applied to any surface, it will bond to it and cross-links fully within 12 hours. The sealant polymers react with moisture which is why you can not have any water in this product. If there is any wax on the surface, Opti-Seal will dissolve it and the polymers will go to the surface and the wax will migrate to the top. This is due to the difference in the surface tension of wax and sealant. I hope this helps answer your question.

I believe I have read something similar about Ultima Paint Guard Plus. Of course, no one has tested how these products would react with a base coat of NXT nor has anyone tested how NXT would react to a base coat of OS or UPGP.

Personally, I would go either with NXT or OS/UPGP. I think I can see the logic in applying a carnauba wax on top of a synthetic sealant (presumably the carnauba topper produces a warmer look while at the same time maintaining the durability of the underlying sealant), but I do not see any benefit to applying a synthetic sealant on top of another synthetic sealant, and I suspect that using two different sealants might well compromise the durability of both. I certainly do not want to discourage anyone from experimenting with different combinations of products, but it should make sense, shouldn't it?

[cardriver]

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Thanks for the recommendations. I've actually been wanting to add Opti-Seal to my routine. Would it fit in with my NXT? If so, would it go before or after the NXT?

I understand that this would be like using two sealants and may be redundant or wasteful, but let's be honest...who ever said that detailing enthusiasts were conservative with their techniques, time, or money?

Ah, interesting question!

[AeroCleanse]

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So I say screw those waxes that claim 6 months, the most I'll go without re-waxing is 3 months. It's only 4 times a year and I'll have the peace of mind that my car is protected.

But that's just me.

Works if its your own car, but when your dealing with clients, they often want a product that can last as long as possible.

[Caress Detailing]

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I think the claim of a product lasting "X" amount of time is just pointless considering there are HUNDREDS of different factors.

Also, everybody seems to have their own perception of durability. Whether it's beading, sheeting, how easily dirt comes off, etc. etc. etc. It ends up being a person by person to a car to car basis. Never the same variables.

The point is, waxing a car is more preventative maintenance than people realize. It's like changing oil. Some oil companies claim that the viscosity of their oil will last 6 months or 10,000 miles. Am I going to wait til 6 months and 10,000 miles at the end of the oils life? HECK NO! I'm going to change that sucker 3/4 of the way or even 1/2 of the way to prevent any possible chance of damage. And even then, after every oil change it depends on how hard I push the car, if I take the car road racing, etc. Again, more variables from a person to person and car to car basis.

The same theory can apply to waxing a car. I'm not going to wait until the near end of a wax's life cycle before I reapply. I'm going to make sure it's got full proof protection all the time to minimize any damage from UV rays, bird bombs, bugs, contaminates, hard water, road grime, etc. etc. etc.

So I say screw those waxes that claim 6 months, the most I'll go without re-waxing is 3 months. It's only 4 times a year and I'll have the peace of mind that my car is protected.

But that's just me.

[cardriver]

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Thanks for the recommendations. I've actually been wanting to add Opti-Seal to my routine. Would it fit in with my NXT? If so, would it go before or after the NXT?

I understand that this would be like using two sealants and may be redundant or wasteful, but let's be honest...who ever said that detailing enthusiasts were conservative with their techniques, time, or money?

[itself]

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This time I am going to apply a second coat, I won't have time for a third, so I'll see how this goes. Thanks for all of the great advice!

Lisa

[AeroCleanse]

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No complaints so far...
I've been wanting to try other "boutique" waxes just to see what they're like, but I still can't bring myself to spend $70 on a 3oz capful of those other brands. I can't even spend enough to give them the chance to show me that their 3-4x + price is that much better than the affordable competition .

If you want to try a "boutique" paint sealant, try Ultima Paint Guard Plus or Optimum Opti-Seal. They aren't as expensive and "boutique" carnuba waxes.

[cardriver]

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With 2 coats, I got at least 3 months out of it, but that's only because I apply 4x/yearly regardless of how long it lasts. Water was still beading great. I also let bird bombs cake in for weeks at a time, and the stuff couldn't make it past the NXT, which is probably the best part .
Oh, and my car is a daily driver, 24/7 outside non-garaged and non-shaded.

No complaints so far...
I've been wanting to try other "boutique" waxes just to see what they're like, but I still can't bring myself to spend $70 on a 3oz capful of those other brands. I can't even spend enough to give them the chance to show me that their 3-4x + price is that much better than the affordable competition .

[AeroCleanse]

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The M21 appears to be the same product, hmmm, I will have to see how the NXT Gen holds out. I would prefer not to have to wax/seal once a month, that really would be a drag.

I will take a look at those products you mentioned as sealants as I have never heard of them. Thanks.

Lisa

If you already bought NXT 2.0 then apply a coat every 12hrs until you have 3 coats of it. I found one coat doesn't seem to last as long as I expect it to. People in other forums always use at least 2 coats of any paint sealant.

[itself]

Re: NXT Generation 2.0 Liquid Wax Rocks!!

The M21 appears to be the same product, hmmm, I will have to see how the NXT Gen holds out. I would prefer not to have to wax/seal once a month, that really would be a drag.

I will take a look at those products you mentioned as sealants as I have never heard of them. Thanks.

Lisa

[akimel]

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Across the internet, including here on MOL, one encounters a remarkable diversity of contradictory testimony about NXT's durability. One finds individuals who state that they don't get much longer than four weeks. One finds other individuals who state that they typically get three to four months. Heck if I know how to negotiate these conflicting testimonies, and given that NXT is not one of my go-to protectants, I do not feel a need to explain or resolve them. I'm not invested in the dispute one way or another.

If durability is one's decisive concern, then I think one should use one of the protectants that are reputed to enjoy significant longevity--Zaino, Collinite, Finish Kare 1000p immediately come to mind. If durability is of only moderate or modest concern, then a wide world of products open up.

It's all a matter of expectations and needs, costs and benefits.

Find something that you like and use it often.