My ONR Process

[HCAD]

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I am a recent Optimum No Rinse convert, as of the last 6 months. My conversion came after a conversation with a detailer at a car show. I haven't washed a car with a hose since. BUT, to tackle one of your points Al, the wheel/wheel well areas are tough. The rest of the car could be relatively clean, heck, Average Joe even may have washed it a few times. But I can guarantee Average Joe didn't wash his wheels or his wheel wells very thoroughly. So even if you get a decent looking car to detail, the wheel area could be a problem for ONR.

Presently I just slop as much of my remaining ONR water into the wheel wells with a rag or sponge, agitate with a scrub brush and call it a day. A final spray with your dressing of choice.

But sometimes a hose is a must. We Virginians love our trucks ... and 4wheelin!

[yakky]

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I started with the two bucket method, but IMO it is a waste of time. The dangerous grit falls to the bottom of the bucket and the grease floats to the top. I do presoak the car with a sprayer. I do ocassionally wash with a power washer to get the cracks and places that ONR doesn't get to.

[MrCLRider]

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Depending on how dirty the car is at the time, I use two buckets on occasion. If its dusty the ONR solution just gets a little cloudy, but if a little heavier on the soiling, I like using two buckets and really rinsing out the sponge well and ringing it out well before dipping it back into the ONR solution..I find the solution stays blu-er for longer.

[Markus Kleis]

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I always use two buckets for traditional washes, but use a single bucket for rinse-less wash systems.

[gjohn28]

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How wet do you leave the sponge/mitt when applying the rinseless solution?

I just did my car with ONR and akimel's grout/mf mitt method, but with 2 buckets. Was wondering if I was using too much/too little solution? I started out with 2.5 gallons of water and 4 cap fulls of ONR (our water here in SE PA is pretty hard, too) and looked to have about 1.5 gal of solution left when I was done.

By the way, I like the rinseless method, but I'll be darned if I can do my TL in less than an hour. Certainly can't get it down to 20 minutes like others have.

[akimel]

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How wet do you leave the sponge/mitt when applying the rinseless solution?

I just did my car with ONR and akimel's grout/mf mitt method, but with 2 buckets. Was wondering if I was using too much/too little solution? I started out with 2.5 gallons of water and 4 cap fulls of ONR (our water here in SE PA is pretty hard, too) and looked to have about 1.5 gal of solution left when I was done.

I don't think there is any hard-and-fast rule here. Experiment with ONR and find a method that works for you. You want to get the surface wet but there is no need to get the surface so wet that it drips all over the driveway or garage floor.

As you have discovered, you do use more product when you use the two bucket method.

By the way, I like the rinseless method, but I'll be darned if I can do my TL in less than an hour. Certainly can't get it down to 20 minutes like others have.

I have no idea how people are able to ONR wash their cars in 20 minutes. I save a few seconds by not having to worry about pulling out the hose and putting it away, etc., but I do not save time in the actual washing of the car. But everything takes me more time than most folks, it seems.

Cheers,
Al

[gjohn28]

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Al - Thanks for the response.

I guess I am doing it about right, then. I don't get too much on the garage floor, just a little here and there. Just want to make sure I have enough lubricity under the sponge/mitt.

I, too, seem to take longer the most on this forum to do just about any detailing activity. I don't know whether it's because of my age or because I'm just more "AR" regarding washing/detailing.

[Eddie6th]

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Up 'till now,i've only ever tried a traditional wash or Quick Detailer. I don't see anything wrong with these methods or the ONR.

[HCAD]

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One more vote for being "AR"! Takes me just as long to do the actual wash too Al, saving only the time it takes to gather the hose and then put it away. But I love it still.

[Jossy92]

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I like using a gallon sprayer with ONR QD strength for the wheels and wheel wells.... then rinse off with the ONR QD sprayer.

Stealing your idea and cleaning my engine using ONR. Wanted to run this by everyone before I destroy something:

Putting cardboard on the garage floor. Using a garden sprayer to apply QD strength ONR.

Letting the ONR runoff, but not letting it dry and if needed spraying remaining left over grunge with a degreaser with a shot of diluted ONR added to it. (Foaming head?)

Letting that soak, agitating(?) and removing the degreaser with ONR . Not sure if an ONR Rinse requires a lot of ONR.

In that regard maybe see if I can foam on ONR for the rinse, give it more time to loosen the soaked in grunge. I will give it a try and supply some feedback.

Any ideas appreciated, right now I can't quite get my head around it. It's all theory.

[Alex C.]

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I'd start the engine cleaning with a good spraying of APC or degreaser first. That is where you'd want to use the foaming sprayer.

[Jossy92]

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I'd start the engine cleaning with a good spraying of APC or degreaser first. That is where you'd want to use the foaming sprayer.

Thanks, sounds like a better way to do it.

Sure appreciate this thread.

[mattaleca]

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Meguiars PLEASE come out with your own version so that I can finally say I do all my detailing with Meguiars products only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9CbLGeBN_w

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36266&highlight=mark+kleis

Check you this video by our very own Mark Kleis. I gues its time to stock up on Last Touch by the Barrel.

[Nappers]

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I havent tried ONR yet

Am I missing anything?

I haven't either, I live in a rural area and my cars are heavily dusty after one or two days and BUGS galore on the front end....

Doubtful I would use it, but if I was in the city with water restrictions and common dust, I would use it more than likely.

I read someone drops a capful in their wash for hard water.....may try that

[Jossy92]

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Wanted to share my experience with ONR this morning. I have read this thread and another by Mr. Kleis many times so this is what happened.

Six AM and I am "brain dead". I look at my friends White Civic daily driver.
She never helps me take care of it by at least "dusting". But it is only slightly dirty.

I have a bucket of used ONR that I mixed up last week. It is still "clean".
Here I go:

- dust horizontal surfaces while soaking wash mitt in ONR. I am only doing the horizontal surfaces. This is not a procedure it is "the voices in my head telling me what to do". I need coffee.

- wring out enough of the ONR so it doesn't drip.

- slide the mitt over the horizontals: top of bumper, hood, window, roof, window, trunk, top of bumper.

- Only used the weight of the mitt, no pressure.

- Did not want or try to remove any bird drops or embedded contaminants. Was careful not to even move them on the surface. Most just came off.

- Went back with 2 Megs waffle weaves use NO pressure.

- Was able to dry without disturbing bird drops.

Done in 5 minutes.

Stuffed 1 ww inside mitt and wrapped that in other ww. Sat on it.
Removed ww's and slid mitt over empty spray bottle to allow it too dry.
[I always wash my mitt in ONR bucket and rinse.] Also I won't have to wash my my rear end this morning.

I have no suggestions about ONR or this process, just thought it would give the more experienced members some issues to work with. Better here than a new thread. And thanks for this thread.