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  • My ONR Process

    I have been experimenting with my ONR method for nine months. Here is the process I used last Saturday on my S2000:

    1) 2 gals. of water, 2 ounces of ONR. We have hard water here in Roanoke County, so I go with the maximum prescribed amount. I only use one bucket, with grit guard.

    2) I gently rinse one or more panels with ONR with a Lowe's Proline grout sponge. This effectively removes most of the dirt, and the grout sponge easily releases the dirt into the rinse bucket. The sponge is particularly helpful on the very lowest panels, which are typically the dirtiest.

    3) I then go over the same panels again with ONR with a microfiber mitt. Because most of the dirt has already been picked up by the grout sponge, the mitt doesn't get as dirty when used exclusively, and I do like the feel of the mitt on the paint surface. I repeat as necessary.

    4) When I believe that I have thoroughly cleaned the surface, I then begin to dry with either a waffleweave towel or a thick napped microfiber towel. As recommended by Scottwax, I use two towels.

    5) With an ONR-dampened towel I wash the door and trunk jambs immediately after I have washed the door and trunk, respectively. I prefer doing this at this point rather than coming back to them. It makes sense to me.

    6) When the entire vehicle has been washed and dried, I then wipe down hoses, coverings, and painted surfaces in the engine bay with an ONR-dampened towel.

    7) With the same ONR-dampened towel, I wipe off the exhaust tips.

    8) Finally, I wash the tires and wheels with the remaining ONR rinse, using the appropriate brushes. With my wheels I find that I need to also use a dampened towel to remove all the brake dust and dirt. I then dry the tire and wheel.

    The glaring weakness in this method is the failure to properly attend to the wheel wells and rim barrels. I haven't found a brush yet that is narrow enough to slide easily between the narrow space between fender and wheel on my S2000 (the CR-V is, of course a different story), and while I do wash the barrels with my spoke brush, I haven't figured out a way to effectively wipe off and dry the barrels. It's easier to clean tires and wheels the old fashioned way, I think (i.e., with a hose). On the suggestion of a fellow at AutoGeek, I may try a sponge next time on the fender wells.

    I welcome all suggestions, criticisms, and tips.

    Cheers,
    Al
    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
    --Al Kimel

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    Re: My ONR Process

    It's pretty hard to offer any other comments, as you have been testing for 9months. I assume you have learned what works and what does not work. I might suggest that you use 2 buckets instead of just one. I've started playing with ONR and use a 2nd bucket as a rinse only bucket. Just to keep the ONR water as dirt free as possible. I'd be curious to hear why you chose to only use one bucket.

    You have taken input from a good source (Scottwax) so I applaud you for that! I'm curious to see what others say as I believe we will all be challenged to wash vehicles with less water very soon.
    -Bob
    NXTti graduate, Meguiars Ford/SEMA Team

    "All Corvette's are red, the rest are mistakes" - John Heinricy (Corvette Engineer)

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    • #3
      Re: My ONR Process

      I've been using ONR like how scottwax has been using it.

      But as far as wheels and tires, I'm in the same boat. Nothing seems to beat the old spray down with some APC or wheel cleaner, and hose off. At least for the tires, wheel wells, and deeper inside the rim.

      I'm subscribed to this thread also to see if anybody had any other suggestions.
      2006 San Remo Red WRX TR
      2005 Ford Ranger XLT

      Detailers clean places nobody see. Detailer see's things nobody else see. But if you ask a Detailer to see how a dress looks on a woman, they are blind.

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      • #4
        Re: My ONR Process

        I'll normally spray down the tires with APC via a foaming sprayer, and wheels with some sort of wheel cleaner. I get a soft bristled brush and soak it with ONR and go to work on the wheels. I get a hard bristled brush, get ONR between the bristles and go to work on the tires.

        Then I have a spray bottle of water and spray down the tire/wheel to rinse off the excess. Kinda a pain to spray it down, but it's the only option without a hose.


        As for the wheel wells, I use APC with a foaming sprayer. Let it sit to break up the dirt, then spray some ONR solution on the wheel wells, agitate with a hard bristled brush, then rinse with water sprayer or ONR solution sprayer.

        I would have to agree that the traditional methods for wheels and tires is much better than ONR.

        I once put swirls in my paint just to see what it looked like.

        I don't always detail cars, but when I do, I prefer Meguiar's.
        Remove swirls my friends.

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        • #5
          Re: My ONR Process

          On my 2008 GTI I've been using a 2 gallon bucket with 1 ounce ONR and a microfiber mitt, wash the whole car then dry it according to the directions and it's worked great. ONR is the only way I can wash my car since I have no access to a hose and I think ONR is just as good as the old fashioned way. I clean the wheels with the leftovers of my bucket, using a cheap microfiber/mesh dual sided wheel cleaner my sister gave me and it works great.

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          • #6
            Re: My ONR Process

            I like using a gallon sprayer with ONR QD strength for the wheels and wheel wells. I know it kinda defeats the "no rinse" idea, but i like to spray it all down with APC 4:1, scrub with a brush soaked in ONR solution and then rinse off with the ONR QD sprayer. The run off is still less than with a hose.
            Last edited by Alex C.; Jul 20, 2009, 03:27 PM. Reason: meant 4:1, not 10:1
            Alex C.

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            • #7
              Re: My ONR Process

              I havent tried ONR yet

              Am I missing anything?
              Nick
              Tucker's Detailing Services
              815-954-0773
              2012 Ford Transit Connect

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              • #8
                Re: My ONR Process

                Some like it , some don't i guess. I love the freedom it gives me to be able to wash anywhere. Bit of a learning curve though, much different then a traditional wash. I almost felt weird using it for the first time.
                Alex C.

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                • #9
                  Re: My ONR Process

                  Originally posted by Black150 View Post
                  Some like it , some don't i guess. I love the freedom it gives me to be able to wash anywhere. Bit of a learning curve though, much different then a traditional wash. I almost felt weird using it for the first time.
                  Some people think that washing their car with a bucket full of strange smelling blue water is just out of this world. There are no suds, you don't rinse, you can use only 1 bucket and no hose at all. It's awesome stuff, Meguiars PLEASE come out with your own version so that I can finally say I do all my detailing with Meguiars products only

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                  • #10
                    Re: My ONR Process

                    Originally posted by Black150 View Post
                    I almost felt weird using it for the first time.
                    I feel weird every time I ONR my car--every time. It's unnatural.
                    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                    --Al Kimel

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                    • #11
                      Re: My ONR Process

                      Originally posted by RDVT4ME View Post
                      It's pretty hard to offer any other comments, as you have been testing for 9months. I assume you have learned what works and what does not work. I might suggest that you use 2 buckets instead of just one. I've started playing with ONR and use a 2nd bucket as a rinse only bucket. Just to keep the ONR water as dirt free as possible. I'd be curious to hear why you chose to only use one bucket.
                      I'm not sure why I have chosen the single bucket. I have used the double bucket routine, too, but when saw Scottwax using the single bucket, I guess I decided that if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. I'm hoping that I am not marring the finish. I don't think I am, but I'm probably not a good judge. It would be easy enough to talk me into embracing the two bucket method, though.
                      Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                      --Al Kimel

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                      • #12
                        Re: My ONR Process

                        Originally posted by Tuck91 View Post
                        I havent tried ONR yet

                        Am I missing anything?
                        If you are happy with the traditional washing technique, then I don't see a need for it.

                        If you happen to live in a city that has water restrictions, extreme hot or cold weather, or hate water spots, then ONR could be a solution.

                        I like ONR simply because I can wash in the garage no matter what time of day it is. Always water spot free too.
                        2006 San Remo Red WRX TR
                        2005 Ford Ranger XLT

                        Detailers clean places nobody see. Detailer see's things nobody else see. But if you ask a Detailer to see how a dress looks on a woman, they are blind.

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                        • #13
                          Re: My ONR Process

                          Originally posted by Caress Detailing View Post
                          If you are happy with the traditional washing technique, then I don't see a need for it.

                          If you happen to live in a city that has water restrictions, extreme hot or cold weather, or hate water spots, then ONR could be a solution.

                          I like ONR simply because I can wash in the garage no matter what time of day it is. Always water spot free too.
                          I like rinse-less washing for those reasons as well. Additionally, for me it is quicker, and less hassle. I don't have to haul out my hose or pressure washer, move the car around, or mess with getting soaked and soapy.

                          I get my bucket, pump in three squirts of Last Touch (MY personal rinse-less wash agent of choice), fill it with 3 gallons of water, and start washing. It's quick and painless, and I can do it any time day or night.

                          The only drawback to rinse-less systems is that you can't use the flow of water from the hose to force out dirt or contaminants that are in cracks or hard to reach places. That was the main thing that kept me from trying rinse-less systems in the first place.

                          Now I just do a traditional wash every now and then to get in the cracks, and then use a rinse-less for my twice weekly washes.

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                          • #14
                            Re: My ONR Process

                            Originally posted by Caress Detailing View Post
                            I like ONR simply because I can wash in the garage no matter what time of day it is. Always water spot free too.

                            That is a big plus for me too. Especially now in SoCal with temps near 100, it gets hot and sunny pretty early which means the possibility of waterspots when washing outside. So, being able to wash the car inside the garage is a great option.
                            -Bob
                            NXTti graduate, Meguiars Ford/SEMA Team

                            "All Corvette's are red, the rest are mistakes" - John Heinricy (Corvette Engineer)

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                            • #15
                              Re: My ONR Process

                              We were having a severe drought. The officials enacted very tough water restrictions. That put me in the mood to try ONR. Boy I am glad I did. The product is fantastic.

                              So easy to use. Can wash the vehicle in the garage, no mess. It is greaI still use the 2 bucket method. For me It just feels "safer" to me.
                              quality creates its own demand

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