would these steps be ok

[Megafast13]

Re: would these steps be ok

You shouldn't see much, if any difference between the panels. When resuming your detailing just work until you get the same results as the other side.

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

well if the weather hold out for tomorrow, i am going to be doing my hood,do i have to wait any period of time before i wax AFTER i use m80?

[akimel]

Re: would these steps be ok

well if the weather hold out for tomorrow, i am going to be doing my hood,do i have to wait any period of time before i wax AFTER i use m80?

You may wax immediately after wiping off the polish.

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

i spent the better part of 2 hours on my hood, clayed,m80 then 2 coats of wax. I did not like the way m80 came off, it was VERY hard to remove. I still have the "spider webs". i am going to try to get a pic or 2 in a bit, i am waiting for the camera battery to charge

[Megafast13]

Re: would these steps be ok

i spent the better part of 2 hours on my hood, clayed,m80 then 2 coats of wax. I did not like the way m80 came off, it was VERY hard to remove. I still have the "spider webs". i am going to try to get a pic or 2 in a bit, i am waiting for the camera battery to charge

Hmm... M80 is not a hard to remove product. I you working it in all the way and immediately wiping it off with a SS Microfiber towel?

If you still have swirls you may need to move up to M83. Or in the future, the M105/M205 Combo is prefered

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

i did not "immediately" wipe it off, i guess that was the problem. And they are not swirls, they are the so called spider webs, i though 2 coats of wax after the 80 and clay would take care of that

[Megafast13]

Re: would these steps be ok

i did not "immediately" wipe it off, i guess that was the problem. And they are not swirls, they are the so called spider webs, i though 2 coats of wax after the 80 and clay would take care of that

"Spider Webs" is a slang term for Swirls

Clay will remove bonded contaminants, not scratches.

M80 is a mildly aggressive polish mainly used after a more aggressive polish.

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

oh ok, i was confused between the terms "swirls and spiderwebs. as for the m80 is that like wipe on and immediatley wipe off with no dwell time like wax?

thanks

[akimel]

Re: would these steps be ok

oh ok, i was confused between the terms "swirls and spiderwebs. as for the m80 is that like wipe on and immediatley wipe off with no dwell time like wax?

Exactly. All of Meguiar's polishes are to be wiped off immediately after they are worked. See this article: Which products need to dry before removing?

[HEMI1500]

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allow me to quote mike "On a personal note, I don't ever let the M80 Speed Glaze dry before removing, but I do tend to apply my products to the entire car at once and then remove all at once and often times this means enough time will have gone by in the areas I started first for the product to dry before I have the chance to come back and remove it.

As long as you're using a high quality microfiber or 100% cotton terry cloth towel to remove this product from the surface, then you shouldn't have any removal problems.

Hope this helps."

i was working the hood in quarters, and using microfiber to remove the m80, in the shade at 50 deg, i am going to have to work this in small sections m80 that is, because if i have alot removal like i had today with it my arm is going to fall off, i mean it was VERY hard to remove. after that though i did 2 coats of wax in under 30 min on the hood, the waxing was a piece of cake compared to the m80, let alone the claying which i did first. Mabey i was having high expectations of m80, or perhaps it was operator error

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

ok well now that the spider webs are under 2 coats of wax, what can/should i do? I will try to get some pics, Also i have some ares that i am not too pleased with on the sides of the cab, in this area on both sides there was over spray from a bed liner i had sprayed in, i guess when i brought it back, he wetsanded it but it shows where the fingers were on the paper

[Mike Phillips]

Re: would these steps be ok

as for the m80 is that like wipe on and immediately wipe off with no dwell time like wax?

Not if you're using it to remove swirls and scratches.

If you're using it to remove swirls and scratches you need to be WORKING it against the paint so you will cause the diminishing abrasives to ABRADE the paint as that's how you level the surface with the lowest depths of the scratches you're trying to remove.

If you haven't already, please read this thread.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7228

(This at least the 4th time I've pasted this link just today, see how popular it is in explaining to people what's taking place)

i am going to have to work this in small sections M80 that is, because if i have alot removal like i had today with it my arm is going to fall off, i mean it was VERY hard to remove.

Are you working by hand or machine?

The idea is to work a section with the M80 and the immediately wipe it off.

Don't work it so long that you work to a dry buff, there should always be a wet film of products on the surface.

M80 is a very easy product to work with, we need to tweak your technique.

ok well now that the spider webs are under 2 coats of wax, what can/should i do?

If you want to remove the scratches, also called cobweb-effect or spider web scratches you need to remove some paint.

ANYTHING you use to abrade the paint in an effort to remove the scratches will effectively first remove any wax off the surface.

Too bad you can't get to one of our Thursday or Saturday classes we could clear all this confusion up and turn you into an expert in about 10 minutes.

[HEMI1500]

Re: would these steps be ok

i also just read this thread http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7011

where would i begin as i mentioned i have already put 2 coats of wax on the hood?

[3Fitty]

Re: would these steps be ok

The two coats of wax shouldn't have any effect. Just use M80 over top and it will most likely remove all of the wax while your correcting.

Think of it this way... to remove swirls, you need to remove some paint. Well, if you're removing paint, you most certainly will be removing that microscipic layer of wax you have over the paint.

Just remember to wax again when you are done.

[02zx9r]

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Too bad you can't get to one of our Thursday or Saturday classes we could clear all this confusion up and turn you into an expert in about 10 minutes.

It is too bad because a lot of us cant get there. Really wish I did live closer but will learn what I can from the site and everyone's input and guidance.