ColorX/Cleaner Wax Replacement

[Mike Phillips]

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Haven't use M20 but has read that its 2 mild for surface cleaning. Sorry for d trouble but been in Asian countries whereby humid is high & acid raining thru out the year is causing alot of trouble. Only good thing is that it does not snow or has winter reason here.

Those scales are all relative, so keep in mind, besides the product, your application material, that is the type of applicator pad or machine buffing pad you use can make a product more or less aggressive.

You can control how aggressive a product is my working it aggressively or gently.

M20 Polymer Sealant is a light cleaning cleaner/wax and works great for a regular maintenance wax. It's not as strong a cleaner/wax as ColorX, M66 or D151 or M06, it's probably closer to A12 Cleaner/Wax in our Consumer Line.

It's actually are really nice wax with light cleaning, if you apply it gently with a soft foam applicator pad it only cleans lightly. A very nice features about it that a lot of people love is the very slick finish it leaves and how easy the wax itself is to wipe-off.

Maybe give the 16 ounce bottle a test drive and if you find you like it then next time order the 64 ounce jug.

[jasonleong]

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Thanks Mike for your advice. Will consider m20 but meantime, i'm very interested 2 know & if possible, see the diff in results from m9 & m82. Read in some other posts where u mention that these 2 products produce very similar results but is totally different in the formulation. One should only has either one but not both. So very curious about this 2. Any links?

[RaskyR1]

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Thanks Rasky. What about megs TSO? Does m66 has it? Or do i need 2 follow up with m07 or dc2 b4 lsp? Has u tried m9 or m82 with honda? Is d cut 2 high for regular use? & whats the diff btw tis 2 in terms of results & looks?

M66 cleans, polishes, and protects, though you can follow it up with another LSP for better protecton if you choose.

Maybe get a cleaner to remove your defects, and then use M20 regularly to maintain the finish.

[roushstage2]

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Perhaps use M66 on a finishing pad to reduce the cut of it.

[akimel]

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Jason, you may find of interest this article: What are the differences between Meguiar's waxes?

[akimel]

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Is m9 or m82 too much for honda soft cc? What about diff in results & looks btw these 2 products? Has anybody tried a comparison or any links?

Let me beat Mike and Mark to the punch and ask, What precisely do you want to accomplish? If your goal is to remove swirls and scatches, then these two products are not sufficiently abrasive, especially when applied with a D/A polisher. If your goal is to remove previously applied layers of wax and prepare the surface for fresh applications of wax or perhaps remove micro-marring left by more abrasive polishes, then either M09 and M82 will work for you. FYI:

What's the difference between #9 #82 and #80

#82 Swirl Free Polish vs #9 Swirl Remover

Have you experienced any problems using M80 on your Honda paint? I have a Honda, too, and have not yet experienced problems, despite my inexperience. It seems to finish down nicely.

[J. A. Michaels]

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I have to agree with Tyler and Rasky. Try the #66 with a finishing pad and it is a very mild cut. I have had good success with #66 with both pads depending what I was up against.

[saturn2]

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If you are getting marring from polishing with 80. Some people have reported that 66 with a finishing pad have helped them.

By the way 20 is a great product that I can't say too many good things about. And it deserves a place in the tool box.

It is Meg's AIO and perhaps it might be their best product that doesn't get alot of attention.

If NXT / 21 is the best protecting wax that comes out of Meguiars than 20 has to be a close second.

And noting comes off easier than 20 it's like a dream to remove.
Try a 16 oz. bottle first.

[jasonleong]

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Let me beat Mike and Mark to the punch and ask, What precisely do you want to accomplish? If your goal is to remove swirls and scatches, then these two products are not sufficiently abrasive, especially when applied with a D/A polisher. If your goal is to remove previously applied layers of wax and prepare the surface for fresh applications of wax or perhaps remove micro-marring left by more abrasive polishes, then either M09 and M82 will work for you. FYI:

What's the difference between #9 #82 and #80

#82 Swirl Free Polish vs #9 Swirl Remover

Have you experienced any problems using M80 on your Honda paint? I have a Honda, too, and have not yet experienced problems, despite my inexperience. It seems to finish down nicely.

I would like to thank u all for the inputs & advice. Let me explain my proposed schedule- use m80 w/ either lc orange/white for paint correction half-yearly or when needed (when i find scratches or swirls). For monthly/bi-monthly surface cleaning & wax removal, use a low cut/chemical cleaner (this is where i'm jammed!), follow by a sealant/wax or both. So far m80 has only given me good results on my honda, thou it may not have the power 2 remove medium scratches or swirls. But it really leaves a amazing surface for my lsp.

[jasonleong]

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Now i'm having trouble in finding a gallon product which is more of a chemical cleaner & do not have 2 much cut for more regular use, & has megs famous TSO (sorry for my greediness) which leaves the surface ready for another lsp. I'm also curious about the differences in results & looks its leaves the surface. As far as i read, the only difference btw the 2 is in terms of usage. Only this?

[jasonleong]

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i an refering to m09 & m82.

[RaskyR1]

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i an refering to m09 & m82.

This pretty much sums it up. Either one will give you the same results when applied in the same manner.

The primary difference between these two products is that M82 Swirl Free Polish is designed to be used via DA polisher or rotary only, while M09 Swirl Remover 2.0 can be used by hand or orbital in addition to DA or rotary. Otherwise, yes, they are quite similar.

Further, both can be used with either the W8006 or W9006 pads, but of course you will experience more aggressive defect removal using the W8006 pad.

[Mike Phillips]

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i an refering to m09 & m82.

Look up the page a ways, Al aka akimel posted some links to threads for you to read.

From your original request, if you're looking for a light cleaner/wax to maintain your finish in-between full detailing sessions then M20 or A12 Cleaner/Wax are both great choices, the benefit that you said you were looking for was to purchase the product in large quantities, thus M20 is available in a 64 ounce container.

[jasonleong]

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Well Mike, i've had read thru those posts & done a search for all m80, m82, m9 thru this forum. I got the m80 in gallon also because of the good results that many has achieved & great comments of this product. Fyi, i'm still a newbie in detailing, but is very interested in this hobby to get the great look for my ride. Sorry for my persistancy, as i still can't get the outright answer to my queries.

[akimel]

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Jason, one additional question: How many cars are you taking care of? If it's just your own car, then consider this: Even if you are waxing your car monthly, one 16 oz bottle of ColorX or Cleaner Wax is going to last you a long time. I don't know how many applications one gets out of one bottle (perhaps Mat has an idea), but given my own usage I would guess one gets at least 20 applications out of it. Do you really need a gallon of cleaner wax?