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    2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

    I detailed the exterior of my '07 Techno-gray Saturn Aura on Saturday. I washed, clayed, used #80 with PC & an 8006, hand applied/removed a thin coat of NXT 2.0, then sparingly sprayed and wiped UQD. 95% of the dealer-installed swirls were gone and the car glistened like a precious jewel!
    The next day, after driving back from work, I California-dusted the exterior and hand applied a 2nd thin coat of NXT 2.0, topped off with UQD again.
    The car looks good but it no longer has that jewel-like gloss.
    I did my wife's '96 white Saturn with the same process 3 weeks ago except no 2nd coat of NXT and it still glistens.
    Should I buff the Aura today with the PC and a UQD-misted finishing pad, or is there a better way to restore that WOW gloss it had after the 1st coat?
    Heatgain (Gary)
    The Irate Magistrate
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    Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

    You sure it's not just a visual perception thing?

    The only good way to test the difference between a first coat and a second coat would to have been left a section of the first coat as a control.

    Is the lighting the same every time your doing your inspecting?
    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com
    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

      Good morning Mike,
      Yes, I looked at it under the lights last night and today in the sun, same as before. My wife agreed last night. It still looks good, it looks like I washed and waxed it, just sort of lacking that pizazz that I think the #80 polishing gives it.
      Would it hurt to buff (DA? rotary?) with the finishing pad and UQD......would it help? Is there anything that might help?
      Maybe I AM crazy visual perception-wise


      Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
      You sure it's not just a visual perception thing?

      The only good way to test the difference between a first coat and a second coat would to have been left a section of the first coat as a control.

      Is the lighting the same every time your doing your inspecting?
      Heatgain (Gary)
      The Irate Magistrate
      Neutral & Detached

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      • #4
        Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

        Originally posted by Heatgain View Post
        ...applied/removed a thin coat of NXT 2.0, then sparingly sprayed and wiped UQD.
        If you apply a detailer to NXT before it cures...???
        Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
        by John Wooden

        '88 Honda

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        • #5
          Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

          Originally posted by Heatgain View Post
          Good morning Mike,

          just sort of lacking that pizazz that I think the #80 polishing gives it.
          M80 works on most paint systems, sometimes it will leave micro-marring when applied with a dual action polisher that will have to be removed using a less aggressive product like M82, M09, M66 or ColorX

          These were all polished using M80 and followed with NXT Tech wax 1.0, the Challenger in the above picture at the time the picture was taken has only been polished with M80 and doesn't have any wax on it yet.

          Pretty hard to beat the results created by the M80/NXT Tech Wax Combination applied with a G100 Dual Action Polisher using good technique.

          Chip Foose's Challenging Challenger



          Steve Metz Panic Parrot



          Steve Radigan's 1960 Corvette


          1956 Ford F150 - Finished with M80 Speed Glaze and Tech Wax


          2006 Mosler - Finished with M80 Speed Glaze and Tech Wax



          Originally posted by Heatgain View Post

          Would it hurt to buff (DA? rotary?) with the finishing pad and UQD......would it help?
          No. You're not supposed to machine buff paint using a quick detailer, wrong product, wrong application method.

          Originally posted by Heatgain View Post

          there anything that might help?
          Keep your perspective in line, doesn't it look pretty good? We're talking subtle differences in "your" eyes, correct?




          Originally posted by Jossy92 View Post
          If you apply a detailer to NXT before it cures...???
          Good point, you're not supposed to "touch" the waxed surface until a window of time of about 12 to 24 hours passé to let the polymers in the NXT Tech Wax fully set-up. This is actually true for all Meguair's waxes and probably most waxes or "Paint Protectants" on the market because each time you wipe the waxed surface after removing the excess you're disrupting the protection ingredients on the surface and you don't want to do this, at least in a perfect world.

          After the wax has fully set-up, then mist it down with the UQD if you like, you shouldn't need to though but you can.

          Also remember this...

          Final Wiping Techniques



          "Polishing paint is an art form"

          Mike Phillips
          760-515-0444
          showcargarage@gmail.com
          "Find something you like and use it often"

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          • #6
            Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

            I think you're right, I UQD'd too soon. I had read that UQD'ing after the NXT gives it that POP.....I guess I did it too soon. Looking at it in the bright afternoon sunlight now though......it DOES look sharp and glossy! I love what #80 brings to the table. I'll give it a rinse tonight and UQD it....that'll give the NXT a whole day to set-up.
            Thanks!

            Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
            M80 works on most paint systems, sometimes it will leave micro-marring when applied with a dual action polisher that will have to be removed using a less aggressive product like M82, M09, M66 or ColorX
            Pretty hard to beat the results created by the M80/NXT Tech Wax Combination applied with a G100 Dual Action Polisher using good technique.

            Keep your perspective in line, doesn't it look pretty good? We're talking subtle differences in "your" eyes, correct?

            Good point, you're not supposed to "touch" the waxed surface until a window of time of about 12 to 24 hours passé to let the polymers in the NXT Tech Wax fully set-up. This is actually true for all Meguair's waxes and probably most waxes or "Paint Protectants" on the market because each time you wipe the waxed surface after removing the excess you're disrupting the protection ingredients on the surface and you don't want to do this, at least in a perfect world.

            After the wax has fully set-up, then mist it down with the UQD if you like, you shouldn't need to though but you can.

            Also remember this...

            Final Wiping Techniques



            "Polishing paint is an art form"

            Heatgain (Gary)
            The Irate Magistrate
            Neutral & Detached

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            • #7
              Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

              The wax needs to set before you QD it, not after. It sounds again like you are going to do it after.

              This is more of a just in case, but if you want the best look, I'd "rinse" (wash?), wax, wait a day, then use UQD to make sure the wax was able to properly set-up.

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                Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

                tonight will be 24 hrs after the 2nd coat of NXT was applied, so I'll UQD after a gentle wash. Wonder if I should top it with paste wax?.....or is that overkill?

                Originally posted by roushstage2 View Post
                The wax needs to set before you QD it, not after. It sounds again like you are going to do it after.

                This is more of a just in case, but if you want the best look, I'd "rinse" (wash?), wax, wait a day, then use UQD to make sure the wax was able to properly set-up.
                Heatgain (Gary)
                The Irate Magistrate
                Neutral & Detached

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                • #9
                  Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

                  Originally posted by Mike Phillips View Post
                  Also remember this...

                  Final Wiping Techniques



                  "Polishing paint is an art form"

                  Wow, great article. The more I read the dumber I get.
                  Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                  by John Wooden

                  '88 Honda

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                    Re: 2nd coat of NXT 2.0 not as glossy

                    Originally posted by Heatgain View Post
                    tonight will be 24 hrs after the 2nd coat of NXT was applied, so I'll UQD after a gentle wash. Wonder if I should top it with paste wax?.....or is that overkill?
                    Paste and liquid are the same thing except how they can best be applied. Liquid can be poured onto a pad like on the G100. Paste by hand. Either way you think of it, they are the same product.

                    2 coats of wax is good. More couldn't hurt, but isn't really necessary. Only so much will stick to the paint.

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