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  • #83 Operator Error

    Ok Folks, here's the scoop:

    Black 2001 Honda Accord
    Severe Acid Rain Pitting
    Spiderwebs
    Some surface spot staining

    Yesterday's 11 hour adventure consisted of the following with #83, Deep Crystal and wax applied with a DA:

    Wash twice-Gold Class
    Clay
    #83-8006 Pad #1
    Deep Crystal Polish-8006 Pad #2(see below)
    Gold Class Wax-9006 Pad

    Results:
    Surface still pitted, but I suspect nothing short of wet sanding will remove them. Way beyond my capability and knowledge!!

    Spiderwebs alive and well.

    Most staining was removed.

    This was my first attempt with #83 and I'm sure the results are 100% attributable to operator error. I attempted to apply it "by the book" working a 2'x2' area for about 3-4 minutes until it hazed over. Once wiped clean, there was a noticable haze (micro scratches??) left behind which I could not clean off. Hence the Deep Crystal Polish which seemed to eliminate (mask?) the haze.

    So, several questions for those far more knowledgable and experienced than I:

    Should I have done a post clay wash?

    Should the #83 be followed by #80 or a another wash before waxing?

    Thoughts on the post #83 "hazing" which I experienced.

    If it was micro scratches, did the Deep Crystal merely fill in the scratches and not solve the problem?

    Why did the spiderwebs survive?

    At 56 years old, I'm not anxious to try this again today LOL, but your thoughts will be sincerely appreciated and applied!! TIA

  • #2
    Did you say you tried pad #1?? As in 7006 Burgandy pad?

    It is not recommended that you use that pad on a g100, because as you saw, it leaves hazing. Now you need to remove that haze with a 8006 pad and 83. If that doesnt do it you might need a rotary.

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    • #3
      I have used the burgundy pad with #83, followed by #9 on the polishing pad and NXT or #26 on the finishing pad with no porblerms at all.
      Meguiar's Fire/Rescue/EMS, member of the Church of the Highly Reflective Finish!
      Waxworks Automotive Detailing

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      • #4
        You wrote that you worked the #83 "until it hazed over". This sounds like you worked it too long and maybe buffed dry, which could have caused the hazing. You should only work the product so long that there's still a wet film on the paint.

        Since the car is black it might just be necessary to follow #83 with a milder cleaner/polish like #80/#82/#9. There's no reason to follow a cleaner/polish with a wash before waxing.

        One reason the spiderwebs might still be there, is if your paint is hard, then it could require a couple of passes to remove them.

        The DC2 probably mostly hid the hazing, but since you used it on a 8006 pad it might also have improved it a bit. If you want to find out, you can wipe the paint with a 50/50 solution of isopropyl alcohol and water, this will remove the wax and polish, to let you see the true condition of the paint.
        "Now Biff... make sure that we get two coats of wax this time..."
        - Back To The Future

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