Zymol

[Justin Murphy]

Yes, to me Gold Class and NXT are more of a sealant than a wax. Maybe that's why you can't tell much difference from #21. I've been topping all of my NXT applications with #26 on a monthly schedule.
Simply an awesome combo.

[sneek]

Originally posted by justin30513
Yes, to me Gold Class and NXT are more of a sealant than a wax. Maybe that's why you can't tell much difference from #21. I've been topping all of my NXT applications with #26 on a monthly schedule.
Simply an awesome combo.

#21 is slick, just not as ultra slick as Gold Class, also #21 is really hard to see on some cars because it spreads so thin, i found myself doing panels 3 times on Albert aka woodstock 's car

[DaGonz]

Re: Re: Zymol

How can Zymol get away with charging a lot of money for their products?
Marketing, marketing, marketing!

Zymol targeted the owners and drivers of high end cars, selling them a premium priced product for their premium priced cars (and doing a very good job of it!) After all, how can one justify using a $3 tin of Turtle Wax on an $80K luxury car?

Ironically, Turtle Wax bought out Zymol, and while Zymol still manufactures premium waxes, it all falls under the corporate "hard shell of the Turtle!"

I used to use Zymol Carbon on my 1992 deep emerald green metallic clearcoat Explorer

It did give it a nice reflective finish, but the detailing shop I used to buy it from ( they had a storefront selling boutique car care products) went out of business ( the owner retired). I went back to Meg's #16 and 26 and found that the shine was comparable.

[Mikeyc]

Re: Re: Re: Zymol

Originally posted by Gonzo0903
Ironically, Turtle Wax bought out Zymol, and while Zymol still manufactures premium waxes, it all falls under the corporate "hard shell of the Turtle!"

Can I ask where you learned this or if you have any proof of it? I've heard this before, but my understanding is that it's completely untrue.

The truth as I understand it is that Zymol is a completely independent company. The Zymol you can buy locally is distributed by Turtle Wax through some sort of licensing agreement with Zymol.

Unfortunately from what I've seen it seems Zymol is the victim of more internet misinformation than almost any other car care brand.

Zymol makes some great products and so does Meguiar's and I'm going to pretty much leave it at that.

[Nosbusa]

I saw a test recently with Zaino and the blue Zymol ( made by Turtle wax). Meguiars GC was also tested.

Zymol tied Zaino in two categories and was beat out by a hair in another. I forget the link, but you can do a google search and see what I'm talking about.

[Jbirk]

Originally posted by onnfire
But are the marginaly better results worth an extra 55 dollars? Could a detailer see a difference?

Zymol Cleaner Wax is only about $13 to $18 for a 160z bottle. It is about the same price as Nxt Tech Wax.

However, that said, it is Carnuaba and doesn't offer the same level of protection as Nxt Tech. At least not chemically. It will ofer the same level of beading or more due to carnuabas unique ability to swell when wet. Overall, the wax moves when wet.

I am not going to say there is anything Wrong with Zymol. It is a great cleaner wax that isn't too strong or too weak. It is no where near as strong as ColorX though. That being said, the Zymol company I find strange. They suggest application via your palm and you have to remove their products immediatly.

I get concerned when I read things like this: "Spun Tallow soaps, Safflower oil, Coconut Oil, and Lemon Peel help emulsify dirt and clean your car without attacking the paint or previous wax application."

Exactly what is Coconut Oil, Lemon Peel, and Safflower Oil doing in a bottle of wax? All it could possibly do is make it smell good. I see why it must be refrigerated. Put simply, their product has the potential to rot. There may be a purpose, but to me it sounds like Zymol puts food and food byproducts in their products. They even call it feeding.

On the other hand, Meguiar's seems to avoid putting unneeded junk in the procuts. Instead a Meguiar's Cleaner wax such as The A12 wax will come with Carnuaba, a Solvent, a Chemical Oxidation Cleaner, Some Polishing Oils, and maybe even dimminishing abrasives; though cleanerwax isn't considered abrasive. My point is it is a proprietary mixture with each part clearly serving a purpose and there are no claims of lemon peal or anything like that to clean your paint. Instead, it is not hidden that it is a chemical paint cleaener. Since paint is not-organic for the most part, it was never living, it makes sence to use chemicals that were never living as well. That said, chemical cleaners, solveents, et cetera work wonders on chemcial paint.


I am not saying Zymol is a bad product becuase if it wasn't for Meguiar's, I would be using their products. I am simply saying that they are a bit wierd for me. I mean heck, they are the only company in the world with the audacity to sell a can of wax for $7000 if you buy their really expensive stuff. Honeslty, for that price, I could careless how much carnuaba is in it and what type because for under $40 you can get a block or a bag of any type of carnuaba in any grade you want.

As for the slickest surface, I thing Gold Class is extrodinarily slick. If you have a customer that wants slick, go with Gold Class.

[Lydia]

Originally posted by Dee
Here for the past two months I've been using the wax-polish, only because it wipes on and right off, very similar to DC3, but (IMO) it gives more gloss than the DC#3..

I'm not sure if I'm mis-understanding your post here, but it looks like you said you used DC#3 as a wipe on wipe right off product. Just in case you didn't know, when using DC#3 you should spread a thin layer on, let it dry to a haze, then buff it off. DC#1 and DC#2 are both wipe on wipe off products, but not DC#3.

[DaGonz]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Zymol

Originally posted by Mikeyc
Can I ask where you learned this or if you have any proof of it? I've heard this before, but my understanding is that it's completely untrue.

The truth as I understand it is that Zymol is a completely independent company. The Zymol you can buy locally is distributed by Turtle Wax through some sort of licensing agreement with Zymol.

Unfortunately from what I've seen it seems Zymol is the victim of more internet misinformation than almost any other car care brand.

Zymol makes some great products and so does Meguiar's and I'm going to pretty much leave it at that.

I was going from memory.. I saw an article in an edition of Professional Carwashing and Detailing magazine.

I could be wrong. I know that TW was handling the sale and distribution of Zymol cleaner wax and other Zymol products.

You have to admit.. Zymol does have good products and great marketing!

[Dee]

Hey, I absolutely love MEGUIARS products and for the most part I don't use any other produuct on my vehicles.
The Zymol, is an exception and I can tell you that from experience it does not compare to Nxt, 21, or Gold Class. However the cleaner wax can be applied and removed very quickly. So in between "real" waxes:-) I will use the Zymol and I'm very satisfied with the results.
It actually takes less time to use than spray waxes that Meguiars has to offer as well.

[Kickin Griffin]

Man, the Zymol topic comes up time and time again! And because of that, curiosity is making me try out some of the estate glazes once I've spare cash together again (just bought a Makita, PTG, Brinkmann and whole heap of pads!)...

Personally, I have not used Zymol estate glazes so cannot honestly comment about them, so I wont. I will do when I have tried them though.

But one thing I can say, and this is something I have always believed - 90%+ of the final look will come from the preparation, not the LSP! There's no point at all in slapping a £100+ LSP on unprepped paint, as it will achieve two thirds of four fifths of nothing. The key to unlocking the beauty of paint is in the prep - clay, polish, glaze: these will prep and produce a very nice wet shine. Then the LSP will simply be the icing on the cake. Now, Zymol make very expensive icing - it may be the best and it may produce awsome results: I'll tell you my honest opinions when I've tried it. But... I've had results that I am absolutely delighted with on properly prepped paintwork just by spit-shining #16, a £12 wax. I'm looking forward to seeing if Zymol is £100s better looking. It might well be, and if thats the case, it'll be truely supberb.

[Mikeyc]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zymol

Originally posted by Gonzo0903
I was going from memory.. I saw an article in an edition of Professional Carwashing and Detailing magazine.

I could be wrong. I know that TW was handling the sale and distribution of Zymol cleaner wax and other Zymol products.

You have to admit.. Zymol does have good products and great marketing!

Late last year there was a press release on Zymol's website that TW had violated their licensing agreement and that Zymol was going to sue. They later retracted the release (I guess they kissed and made up ), but based on this I'm going to say TW does not own Zymol.

There are a lot of companies in the car care industry that do an unbelievable job with marketing. Of course there is Zymol, PBMA (Pinnacle, Wolfgang, & Detailer's Pride parent company), Zaino, and others. Of course Meguiar's does a great job promoting their products as well. This forum itself is a manner in which Meguiar's promotes their products. Sure, you can learn a lot about general detailing here but you also hear quite a bit about the merits of Meguiar's products.

[Nosbusa]

I believe on the back of the Blue Zymol bottles on the walmart shelves it says made for Zymol by and it names something other than Zymol.

I have a Blue Zymol bottle from 1994 (not sure why) and it says Dist by Zymol Enterprises INC. I don't believe the new bottles say anything about Zymol on the back.

Anyone have a new bottle? If so post what it reads on the back at the bottom.

[Nosbusa]

I did a search and here's what I found.

Amazon.com has this for the listing of Zymol

Zymol Z-503 Auto Polish. 16 oz. liquid
by Turtle Wax

All other Zymol products are listed as by Zymol. So I guess the Z-503 is now made by Turtle wax.