Zymol

[onnfire]

Why are zymol products so expensive? How can they charge so much more if their results arent significantly or any better than meguiars?

[steveo3002]

some people think expensive= better

[Murr1525]

Well, sometimes you get what you pay for.

I suppose it takes experience and actualy seeing results to know when a cheaper product will do.

[LS1MONSTER]

I've used their cleaner wax back in the day and was extremely satisfied..

[Accumulator]

Don't lump all the Zymol stuff together...their ultra-expensive offerings are quite different from their consumer-level stuff. People whose opinions I respect have high praise for Zymol's Estate Glaze offerings (and conversely, some other people whose opinions I respect don't think they're all that great).

While my knee-jerk reaction was that it's all hype, when somebody I deem reliable does a side-by-side comparison, I pay attention, so I've adapted a more open mind towards their Estate Glazes.

Heh heh, note that most people can't tell #26 from #16 from NXT (or whatever the various LSPs were) in a single-blind test with adjacent panels...

[the other pc]

Re: Zymol

Originally posted by onnfire
...How can they charge so much more...?

Because they can. It’s called free enterprise.


PC.

[Rob66]

I've tried and still have Zymol Titanium Estate Glaze. Yes its expensive think i paid about £45 ($80ish) 3 years ago. But it goes a long way and i keep it in the fridge. Funnily enough i used it again last week the first time for about 6mths (been just using Megs recently) just really to see if i could notice the difference, these were the results.










Process was:

Meguiars Gold Class Wash
Megs Quik Clay
Zymol HD Cleanse
Zymol Titanium by hand (literally)


I never thought i would be able to tell the difference between different waxes but there is a marked difference in results between say NXT and Titanium. To my eyes NXT is more reflective/brighter, whereas the Zymol has a more even finish not necessarly better just different, difficult to explain but looks smooth if that makes sense.

Rob

[Dee]

Hey, I'm glad someone finally mentioned this product on the site.. Here for the past two months I've been using the wax-polish, only because it wipes on and right off, very similar to DC3, but (IMO) it gives more gloss than the DC#3..
Now it can't compare to Nxt, 26, or even 21.. But when you don't have a lot of time, and you want maximum shine.. Its not a bad product... Has anyone tried this product?

[Rob66]

Hi Dee

I have seen the wax-polish (its the only Zymol product you can by in the stores - the rest is mail order). I havent used it but have heard good things about it. The one i used is called an Estate Glaze and is applied with the palm of your hand - sure smells good

[35th Anniversary SS]

I was on the brink of buying some Zymol products until I went to a paint shop, to buy some clay, and they suggested the #80 and #83. I ended up never trying the Zymol stuff. Ive heard a lot of good though.

I must admit.. I use the Zymol leather cleaner and conditioner and I really really like it. IMO it has a very neutral clean smell to it.

[Skuz]

The only Zymol product I've used is their cleaner wax. This wax left the slickest finish I have ever felt.

Unfortunately, this slick finish doesn't last long.

After finishing that bottle, I tried NXT after reading much praise about it. NXT doesn't leave such a smooth finish, but lasted longer and seemed to darken my paint, I absolutely loved the effect.

[onnfire]

But are the marginaly better results worth an extra 55 dollars? Could a detailer see a difference?

[Justin Murphy]

Originally posted by onnfire
But are the marginaly better results worth an extra 55 dollars? Could a detailer see a difference?

I couldn't and my customers either.

[Accumulator]

IMO you won't know until/unless you try. No, most people won't notice the difference any more than they'd notice the difference between any other LSPs.

It's like a lot of things- some people discern a difference, some people *convince themselves* they see a non-existent difference, and some people just don't see a difference.

But again, some people who know their stuff and have lots of products on the shelf use the Estate Glazes (the over $100 ones) on some cars because they don't believe they can duplicate the result with anything else. If they could get the same result with one of their other, easier-to-use LSPs they'd do it that way. They don't use the Zymol on daily drivers and wouldn't suggest it to their customers; it's a special situation product.

On a less-than-flawless finish and normal mass-produced-car paint I'd say nobody will see it. On a flawless $50K paintjob, maybe you would, especially if you layered many applications on there under the properly controlled conditions (which sound like a hassle to me). Not something that's gonna be relevent to most people, I suppose.

BTW, the Zymol cleaner wax is supposedly made by Turtle Wax. Utterly unrelated to their hand-mixed products that cost an arm and a leg.

[sneek]

Originally posted by Skuz
The only Zymol product I've used is their cleaner wax. This wax left the slickest finish I have ever felt.

Unfortunately, this slick finish doesn't last long.

After finishing that bottle, I tried NXT after reading much praise about it. NXT doesn't leave such a smooth finish, but lasted longer and seemed to darken my paint, I absolutely loved the effect.

Have you tried Gold Class Wax? I just tried #21 today and i still kind of like Gold Class( maybe because my car is silver and i can't really see the differences between waxes)

BTW, the Zymol cleaner wax is supposedly made by Turtle Wax. Utterly unrelated to their hand-mixed products that cost an arm and a leg.

yes thats why some people call it zurtle wax