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  • Pictures from August 24, 2013 Saturday Class

    Another great Saturday Class with an enthusiastic group of students. And one pickup truck in serious need of TLC!


    Water spots, anyone?


    Would you like a side order of swirls with those spots?


    Aside from all the marring in the paint, the truck was also dirty and loaded with bonded contaminants. So we cleaned it with a little Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere to start.


    And then we hit with the clay bar..... this is what was lifted from just a small area on the hood.


    We discussed and demonstrated both traditional foam polishing as well as the DA Microfiber Correction System. Regardless which system you choose, technique is critical. Below is an all too often seen example of poor technique: the tool is tilted so the backing plate is at a steep angle to the paint, which will cause the pad to stop rotating and you'll lose cut.


    This is what you strive to achieve at all times when working on flat surfaces.


    Curved body panels, whether a gentle curve or a tight radius like the front of this hood, can easily be polished simply by keeping the center line of the pad in contact with the paint rather than using an edge. This way the pad will continue to rotate, maximizing cutting ability of any pad/product combination.


    Next we moved on to the DA Microfiber System. Here it is critical to fully prime the pad with D300 before starting, so in the image below we're rubbing the product into the pad in order to fully coat the microfiber filaments.


    Fully primed and blown out with compressed air, we're ready to start polishing paint.


    Add just three drops of product to the pad once it's primed and you're ready to start. Using more product than this is not going to help you and can actually make the polishing process slower and less effective.


    Again, keep the pad flat against the paint and use moderate pressure with smooth, overlapping strokes.


    After polishing a section the fibers will become matted on the face of the pad. These need to be either blown out or brushed out to remove spent product and abraded paint residue. This must be done after every section you buff.



    While compressed air is the best option, a pad conditioning brush will also do a great job of cleaning the pads.


    Step two in the process is to swap over to a microfiber finishing pad (notice the black foam on this pad compared to the burgundy foam on the previous pad used with D300) and D301 Finishing Wax.


    Results of our two test spots: foam with Ultimate Compound/Ultimate Polish/Ultimate Wax on the left and microfiber with D300/D301 on the right.


    A closer look at the microfiber corrected side.


    The original paint condition.


    Time to let the students have a go with the buffer. Of course we let the car owner go first, so here's Trenton working the microfiber system.


    Paying close attention to curved body panels.


    Teamwork!


    We have a new rule in the training garage: if you're caught wearing a watch when you start buffing, I add it to my watch collection.


    The concentration is contagious.


    Keeping a close eye on the progress.


    A big thank you to Trenton for allowing us to use his truck as a demo, and to Jo for being our photographer for the session!
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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    Re: Pictures from August 24, 2013 Saturday Class

    Maybe a dumb question, but still,

    Could it be that the burgundy cutting pad would have been the better choice over the yellow polishing pad when using the ultimate compound?

    Just wondering, because it seams the ultimate trio fell a bit short when compared to the microfiber treated side

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      Re: Pictures from August 24, 2013 Saturday Class

      Originally posted by overseer1234 View Post
      Maybe a dumb question, but still,

      Could it be that the burgundy cutting pad would have been the better choice over the yellow polishing pad when using the ultimate compound?

      Just wondering, because it seams the ultimate trio fell a bit short when compared to the microfiber treated side
      Generally speaking, the burgundy cutting pad is not recommended for use with the G110v2 DA polisher. That's why the classes always use the yellow polishing pad with Ultimate Compound.
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        Re: Pictures from August 24, 2013 Saturday Class

        Originally posted by overseer1234 View Post
        Maybe a dumb question, but still,

        Could it be that the burgundy cutting pad would have been the better choice over the yellow polishing pad when using the ultimate compound?

        Just wondering, because it seams the ultimate trio fell a bit short when compared to the microfiber treated side
        Not a dumb question at all. We don't recommend the burgundy cutting pad with a DA due to the construction of the pad being so aggressive that it often create a DA haze. Yes, it will cut more but the haze it can create with a DA is often severe enough that it scares people off. It's also not a big surprise that the Ultimate Trio via foam was out done by the DAMF System since the microfiber process is far more aggressive. With this particular demo vehicle, the more aggressive process was the better choice, but that is not always the case. More often than not we find the Ultimate Trio with foam gets the job done. When that is the case, why would you choose a more aggressive (and potentially much more aggressive) process to accomplish the same task?
        Michael Stoops
        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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          Re: Pictures from August 24, 2013 Saturday Class

          Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
          Not a dumb question at all. We don't recommend the burgundy cutting pad with a DA due to the construction of the pad being so aggressive that it often create a DA haze. Yes, it will cut more but the haze it can create with a DA is often severe enough that it scares people off.
          This haze , would you be able to remove it with ultimate pollish and a yellow pad?

          Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
          It's also not a big surprise that the Ultimate Trio via foam was out done by the DAMF System since the microfiber process is far more aggressive. With this particular demo vehicle, the more aggressive process was the better choice, but that is not always the case. More often than not we find the Ultimate Trio with foam gets the job done. When that is the case, why would you choose a more aggressive (and potentially much more aggressive) process to accomplish the same task?
          Agreed, more often than not ultimate compound+ultimate polish is sufficient. But if this is not the case, what are the possibilities when you don't have the microfiber system, (doing even more passes with UC doesn't count :P)

          My options are:

          - the burgundy pad's (They came with the set but I rarely use them, never had this haze though...)
          - m105
          - I've heard a microfiber bonnet over the yellow pad can be used for getting a bit more cut, but I've never don this (They came with a orbital buffer, and they do seem to fit perfectly over the soft foam pads)

          Then again, the MF system may be my next investment.
          Can you use it with UC/UP? Or is it for use with MF products exclusive?

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