Doesn't matter HOW much you pay for a car....

[CreamPuff]

Swirls are included at no extra charge...I took this pic yesterday in Beverly Hills (sorry, iPhone camera pic) at the Concours D'Elegance off Rodeo Drive

[BlueZero]

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Haha! That's so funny how we look for that stuff too.

[CreamPuff]

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An expert car detailer could have made a killing at this show...EVERY car I looked at was swirled up like you couldn't believe. But maybe one would be scared to work on some of these cars as they're old an extremely expensive.

And BTW...if you can't tell or have never seen the logo...it's a McLaren MP4-12C...AMAZING paint job though, just not a very good job on the finishing side....the metallic in the paint was beautiful. Maybe the owner will give Superior Shine a call.

The pic from my iPhone doesn't show how badly the car was swirled...I mean it was EVERYWHERE! And look at the logo...it's even got some grime/wax left around it.

[ffboy]

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Nice car, but a tragedy to see all those swirls. It's tough to call who inflicted those swirls, i wouldn't jump and say it was the dealer's fault, it could easily been caused by the owner. I guess no car is exempted from having swirls, the owner really has to keep the paint looking good. Or in this case the owner should have kept a closer look at how his/her car is being detailed/corrected. Because at car shows like Concours D' Elegance, the cars will be presented to everyone, under the lights or sun, so all eyes will be on the car and the paint. And when all eyes are focused on the cars, the last thing anyone needs is to see all those swirls, spiderwebbing and any imperfections.

[davey g-force]

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I agree, that is tragic to see swirls on such a nice, expensive car, but also at a Concours D' Elegance!!

I must admit, it kind of makes me feel good about my own paint to know that even exotics at supposed Concourse car events STILL have swirls.

[CreamPuff]

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I can understand some of the REALLY old cars having swirls, because after all, those cars could be single stage paint and the paint could be very old on some of those cars. But the McLaren, it was brand new...no plates...it was a car that a local dealer brought to show off and probably stir some interest of course. Not one car there had flawless paint...every thing was swirled like hell!

BTW...it was probably the BEST LOOKING metallic candy red paint I've EVER seen in person...if you can get your eyes away from the swirls...holy cow!

[davey g-force]

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Not one car there had flawless paint...every thing was swirled like hell!

It never ceases to amaze me how this is ususally the case at car shows. Maybe we're just too fussy? Maybe others can't see the swirls, or maybe they just don't care?

[ffboy]

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Maybe they do care, but have other things in mind for that car than just keeping it swirl free.. On the other hand, maybe they're thinking I drive an exotic supercar with awesome handling and it more than makes up for the swirls in the paint. Like saying, why worry about swirls when I can just focus on driving this car on the track?

[davey g-force]

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Yes, good point.

(I'd still want it swirl free though... lol)

[wifpd4]

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I wonder if some folks don't see swirls as specular highlights caused by micro facets on the surface. Or as a bonus to the true color of the finish, like the swirls belong there.

I was on Wikipedia today, can you tell?

[Michael Stoops]

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A couple of years ago we were asked by the Rolls Royce Owners Club to conduct a few seminars at their National Inter-Regional Meet in Orlando, FL. I was selected to go and do the seminars, and the Friday night of the event we had dinner at a nearby Rolls Royce/Lamborghini dealership. They had cleared out the showrooms, other than a couple of cars in each, and had all the food laid out, the bars set up, and the requisite tables for dining. Several people who had taken the seminars approached me and asked if I would look at something for them as they wanted to confirm what they were seeing. After a while, whenever someone approached me and asked me to "check this out" I immediately knew where they wanted to take me - to the brand spanking new, black Rolls Royce Phantom sedan sitting in the show room, full of swirls. And a sticker price just over $400,000.

But, to be fair, it had been in dealer inventory for a while and so it had it been wiped down several times, and most likely quickly washed a few times as well. One would hope that a RR dealer would do some very nice prep work prior to delivery once the car is sold, but we're never surprised to see swirls on very expensive cars.

[CreamPuff]

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Swirl free finish is extra! $400,000.00 only gets you the car. DUH!

[ChevysLastSled]

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My car was under $25,000 with no swirls! what are the odds?
I don't think it was on the lot long enough to get washed. Most of the plastic was removed. Big selling points in my opinion.

[DaveT]

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Mine was swirl free for a year...then I had to have some work done because of a kid backing into me. The body shop installed swirls for free. I should have known when the pulled the car under a canopy for me to take delivery...

[Griever]

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Not too long ago I saw a Black Metallic McLaren MP4 at a local car wash. It made me cringe watching such an awesome car being slapped around by those big blue brushes of doom. Needless to say, it was heartbreaking. Oddly enough, I was surprised those 12 inch wide wheels in the rear actually fit in the rollers.