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  • Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

    So, I went to the Canadian International Autoshow in Toronto today and I was bitterly disappointed with the Meguiars exhibit at the show.

    Part of my disappointment had nothing to do with Meguiars (I'm sure), but part probably did.

    One of the things I like about Meguiars is the fact that I think they work hard to provide accurate information about their products and detailing in general. However, working their booth at the Canadian International Autoshow, were two very un-Meguiar's like "boys".

    First (probably not Megs fault), but NONE of the new products were present. I figure this has probably more to do with regulatory rules and distribution issues, so I'll leave that one alone.

    However, the other things I witnessed were pretty inexcusable. First off, I asked about a lot of the new product line. The two people working the booth (I won't call them Meguiars staff because it is almost hard to believe they could be), didn't know about ANY of the new products I asked about. In particular, I wanted to know if they had the new DA Microfiber system and they looked at each other as though I was speaking a foreign language.

    Next I asked about the new Ultimate Wax and again, nada. They knew nothing about any of the new products launched at SEMA. That is pretty inexcusable, considering probably every member here could list all the new products.

    The next event was even worse. Two older gentlemen asking one of these "boys" about how they could acheive the "flawless" finish that Meguiars had at their booth (hood of a car). So, the kid tells him, you need clay and brings out pink "agressive" clay in the little tub and tells him to use it while the car is still wet, otherwise it will stick to the car (no lube is mentioned) and that should be followed by a $55 dollar (64oz) tub of M21 2.0, because M21 will "get rid of your swirls".

    Well, enough was enough and I had to step in before I let this go any further. I could NOT believe this was a Meguiar's booth or that these two kids were permitted to work the booth. It was a travesty.

    I told the gentlemen that the clay was the wrong clay unless they had major overspray problems or other above surface contaminents that could not be removed by Meguiars mild clay. Next, I told them that M21 (as good a product as it is) does not REMOVE swirls, it hides them. I think it is important people get to make informed choices. Moreover, these guys weren't even weekend hacks. The notion that this guy was selling them the 64oz size of M21 to "get rid of all the swirls" was just awful. That was more product then they would need for a lifetime.

    I told the two older men that M21 was a great product and would provide more than adequate protection but that actually REMOVING imperfections took a lot more work than masking them. I told them masking them was fine, but after a wash or two, they would probably reappear. I told them that buying a 64oz size would last them 2 years if they were professional detailers doing 5 cars a week (maybe I exaggerated). The Meguiars kids just looked at me dumbfounded for killing their sale.

    Sorry, but it wasn't right and I can't imagine how many more people got the same lousy advice. If anyone at Meguiar's is concerned, please find out which two chaps were at the show today and I'd do something about the advice they are doling out.
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    3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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    Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

    Yikes! Doesn't sound like they had any idea what they were talking about.
    I am surprised Meguiars would have people at a car show who didn't know their products.
    Maybe they were last minute fill-ins?

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    • #3
      Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

      That's unfortunate to hear 3Fitty. I could be wrong, but I believe that the normal travel crew and Meguiar's Big Rig trucks only travel in the Untied States, as it may be too much of a hassle to cross borders and sell from the truck. Even so, it is unfortunate to hear that the boys manning the Meguiar's booth were not knowledgeable on the products or processes.

      I once put swirls in my paint just to see what it looked like.

      I don't always detail cars, but when I do, I prefer Meguiar's.
      Remove swirls my friends.

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      • #4
        Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

        Originally posted by CAShine View Post
        Yikes! Doesn't sound like they had any idea what they were talking about.
        I am surprised Meguiars would have people at a car show who didn't know their products.
        Maybe they were last minute fill-ins?
        Don't know what their story was, but it wasn't a good one.

        I'm trying to think if saying "sorry we don't know" would have been a better answer than the advice they were giving.
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        3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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        • #5
          Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

          As an aside, I took the opportunity to buy three items that you don't ordinarily find North of the border.

          I got the Odor Eliminator, NXT Metal Polish and (another) Water Magnet.
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          3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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          • #6
            Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

            I just feel bad for the folks that actually took their advice.

            I am interested to hear Meguiars response though.
            Nick
            Tucker's Detailing Services
            815-954-0773
            2012 Ford Transit Connect

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            • #7
              Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

              Wow!

              I think Meguiars should take this seriously...
              Originally posted by Blueline
              I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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              • #8
                Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
                Wow!

                I think Meguiars should take this seriously...
                We do take this seriously, and we're glad this was brought to our attention. Outside the US, including immediate neighbors like Canada, it would be our distributor in that country working the shows and not our Special Events Team based in Irvine or with one of the three big rigs we have roaming the US.
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #9
                  Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                  The distributor over there must have hired some kids and and given them some basic training.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                    Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                    We do take this seriously, and we're glad this was brought to our attention. Outside the US, including immediate neighbors like Canada, it would be our distributor in that country working the shows and not our Special Events Team based in Irvine or with one of the three big rigs we have roaming the US.
                    That is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I learned pretty much everything I know about detailing from the fine people at Meguiars. I like the company and the way the guys here offer advice.

                    You guys are not about hype, but about providing consumers with the best information possible to make informed decisions. I have a great deal of respect for that approach and I was VERY disillusioned by these "kids" working the Meguiars booth.

                    There was no mention of using the "least agressive method possible" when discussing the clay. There was no mention of Meguiars step by step method of treating your paint. I mean, I get that it may not be for everyone, but shouldn't these guys have at least had the knowledge?

                    However, the fact that they had NO idea about the new products launched at SEMA was just amazing to me. Heck, the boys at Meguiars could have contacted me and I would have worked their booth for free, just to get out the proper information.

                    Oh well, what's done is done. Hopefully the right person has read this post and made the appropriate changes to the booth.
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                    3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                      I was at the sacramento Autorama I hung out at there booth for a bit the two guys working were a big help! I asked them about the new engine cleaner and a few of the new things.
                      2008 Mazda CX-9 (WIFE'S)
                      1995 Ford F150 XLT (MINE)
                      1995 Honda Accord LX (TOTALED)
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                      • #12
                        Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                        I see this kinda thing at shows all the time. Around here they're still trying to sell of old stock from like 5 years ago! I don'e even waste my time talking to the so called Meguiar's reps(they are not) at the car shows. Most of the people that work these booths are NOT detailers in any way or even car enthusiast. Most are just people that think they can make a buck selling something at the shows. I really wish Meguiar's would take a serious look at how their products are protrayed here in Canada by their distrubutos rather than taking the stance of "we just sell them (distrubutors) the product. How they market it or sell it is totally up to the ditrubutor not us" respone.
                        I guess when you have one state with more than the poulation of a whole country it does'nt really matter what the country says.
                        Professional Automotive Reconditioning Services
                        "You scuff it-I buff it!"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                          TBB,

                          I do agree with much of what you have written, but I think you're being a bit harsh. I think it is in Meguiar's best interest to have their distributors represent their products (and methods) correctly. It certainly doesn't serve their "brand" well, by providing the public with misinformation.

                          Meanwhile, a stones throw away was a Canadian company promoting their car care product line in a very professional manner and with Meguiars-like advice on car care. Now, their product line is nothing like Meguiars but their presentation (at this show) was so much better, I would imagine they outsold Meguiars on presentation alone.
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                          3Fitty - Now recommending products I have never used.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                            Originally posted by 3Fitty View Post
                            TBB,

                            I do agree with much of what you have written, but I think you're being a bit harsh. I think it is in Meguiar's best interest to have their distributors represent their products (and methods) correctly. It certainly doesn't serve their "brand" well, by providing the public with misinformation.

                            Meanwhile, a stones throw away was a Canadian company promoting their car care product line in a very professional manner and with Meguiars-like advice on car care. Now, their product line is nothing like Meguiars but their presentation (at this show) was so much better, I would imagine they outsold Meguiars on presentation alone.
                            Totally agree. Your more likely to buy from someone who is well informed about the product and the process.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Big Meguiars Disappointment - Canadian Autoshow

                              Valid comments - there were times at the Autoshow where we did not have all the senior staff we wanted.
                              This year, Meguiars Canada is starting to build a larger team for the future. What this means is that we are training some new people. We had some pretty senior people at the show - but sounds like you saw none of them, which is disappointing. Not everybody is an expert yet, but we will get better.

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